For the record, if I had to choose between saving the life of my dog, or a random human, I would choose to save the life of the human,
but
if I had to choose between the life of my dog or the life of a dangerous intruder in my home, I would side with my mutt every time.
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How I go there is still a bit fuzzy.
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Or even “got”.
:smack:
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So my question is, light strand, did you make it perfectly clear with the lady when you found her child in your home and yard that you did not want her there under any circumstances? Did you inform her that, no, the neighbourhood isn’t her child’s playground?
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I find it mind-boggling to the point of incomprehensibility that people think
is somehow NOT an indication that RANDOM PEOPLE AREN’T WELCOME THERE. I can’t fucking BELIEVE that somehow this is supposed to be light strand’s fault.
I’m not saying “down’s syndrome child trespassing = rape.” I’m saying “what the fuck are you fucking talking about, you pile of dumbshit that walks like a human?”
As I’ve said elsewhere, when I think “little person/developmentally disabled person got hurt because s/he wasn’t fully supervised at home,” I think “accidentally drank poison” or “fell down the stairs and broke a leg” or “wrote all over the walls with lipstick.” I definitely DON’T think “was wandering the neighborhood, going into peoples’ houses and communing with their pets.” See, that’s not “inadequate supervision.” That’s “total fucking negligence.”
I’m assuming if Big Red’s parents’ house is ever robbed empty, she’ll be sure to tell them it’s because they did not adequately protect it from invasion. Can’t possibly be because some asshole thief broke in.
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Oh, and to Milli, yours was just the closest post to end of the thread. Nothing personal. It just struck as odd, Pit or not, that so many posters were discussing their opinions of civil or perhaps even criminal liability, and hardly anyone was bothering with any facts that could have been found, knowing the OP’s location.
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It’s been a long week. I’ve just realised Milli is moi.
No problem, NCB, no offence taken.
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Looking at how long I’ve been posting without changing my ways, I would say the chance is quite slim…
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Can’t teach an old dog new tricks …
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So my question is, light strand, did you make it perfectly clear with the lady when you found her child in your home and yard that you did not want her there under any circumstances? Did you inform her that, no, the neighbourhood isn’t her child’s playground?
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Well, let’s see; when my husband picked her up, and carried her out of the house to her own driveway, while she was screaming bloody murder, I didn’t see her mother, but when she came flying out of the house to give my husband the evil-eye, and he said, “She was in my house” I kinda expected that she would have gotten the idea that her daughter was not welcome in our house.
As an update: Animal Control finally made the visit last night, and the dogs are officially under house arrest for the next six days (ten total). I can’t believe what they expect us to do. I know it’s not Animal Control, as they are brought in automatically, but the rules are truly archaic. We are supposed to keep the dogs separate, each locked in a room. We are not to let them out (even in the back yard) unless supervised, they are not to be walked, and they are not to be in public under any circumstances, no car rides, no walks to the street to get the mail, no nothing! I can understand these rules around the turn of the century, when dogs bit because they were rabid; but for god’s sake, dogs now are inoculated. It just seems really silly.
What if one of them needs to go to the vet?
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Does the mother know that her daughter was found in other people’s houses and that they didn’t appreciate it?
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Does she really have to be told that her daughter shouldn’t be wandering into other people’s houses? It seems like that would be the default assumption to make. But, just in case…
Attention Dopers:
Please do not wander uninvited into my house. I do not appreciate it when people do this. If you’re in the neighborhood, feel free to ring the doorbell. If I’m not busy, I’ll likely invite you in and offer you a beer (unless you look like you’re under 21). If I don’t answer the door or don’t invite you in, however, you are not to let yourself in. Thank you for your cooperation.
I’m having a sign made for my front door as well.
:rolleyes:
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What if one of them needs to go to the vet?
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I didn’t ask, but I’m guessing the Animal Control people would say to call them first, and not to take the dogs out without their permission. It doesn’t matter though, because I would take them anyway.
[QUOTE=Go You Big Red Fire Engine]
Ever had or lived with a mentally retarded child? No? That’s what I thought.
Retarded children require a lot more responsibility than normal children, and I very much doubt she asked for a retarded child.
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And how does that in any way make Light Strand responsible for someone else’s child? It may be understandable that she is a little lax with her child, but there’s a reason I’m not having kids. It’s because I don’t want to care for them, retarded or not. If you have them, you are responsible for them, and one of those responsibilities includes knowing where the hell they are…what if there’s a convicted sex offender on Light Strand’s block? Do you think that the child should be able to wander around and in people’s property then, or do you think she should probably be watched more closely?
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Attention Dopers:
Please do not wander uninvited into my house. I do not appreciate it when people do this. If you’re in the neighborhood, feel free to ring the doorbell. If I’m not busy, I’ll likely invite you in and offer you a beer (unless you look like you’re under 21). If I don’t answer the door or don’t invite you in, however, you are not to let yourself in. Thank you for your cooperation.
I’m having a sign made for my front door as well.
:rolleyes:
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Wait wait wait! Well then what the fuck am I going to do with my afternoon then? Why are you so selfish? Wont you think of the fact that maybe, JUST MAYBE I need to wander through your house? Of course you wont, you selfish, selfish bitch.
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As an update: Animal Control finally made the visit last night, and the dogs are officially under house arrest for the next six days (ten total). I can’t believe what they expect us to do. I know it’s not Animal Control, as they are brought in automatically, but the rules are truly archaic. We are supposed to keep the dogs separate, each locked in a room.
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Well c’mon, this is a good rule. Cause for one thing if you don’t lock them in then they can just reach up with their hands turn that doorknob and walk right into the house where the people are. AAAAhhhhhhh! Plus, if you don’t separate them who knows what kind of nasty shit they could be plotting together? You could wake up one night and literally find yourself being licked to death.
I can’t believe this bullshit. Plug up that hole, put “Beware of Dog” signs everywhere, and have each of your neighbors sign an affidavit affirming that they know and understand that under no conditions are they to trespass on your property without written permission. Then, win the lottery and move to where the asshole quotient is much lower.
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Then, win the lottery and move to where the asshole quotient is much lower.
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Where is that? I’ll move tomorrow (and increase the asshole quotient by 1).
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Where is that? I’ll move tomorrow (and increase the asshole quotient by 1).
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Right beside me buddy! Come on down! (Uh, you need a hand with that big old bag o’ money there neighbor?)
Oh sure, like they’re going to tell you now.
[QUOTE=Go You Big Red Fire Engine]
Way to miss the point. IMHO, having an older than teen daughter that has still not become independent of you is reckless parenting, YMDV.
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Ha ha ha. You’re so original! I didn’t see that coming.
:rolleyes:
I’m not the one wandering into peoples’ houses at will, teasing their dogs and causing potential harm. I never had to be carried out of my neighbor’s house screaming because I KNEW BETTER than to wander into strange houses. What’s more, MY parents didn’t have a shit fit or expect other people to take care of me or my sister.
Imagine that-being responsible for your OWN kids. But that’s just too hard, y’all!
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I’m assuming if Big Red’s parents’ house is ever robbed empty, she’ll be sure to tell them it’s because they did not adequately protect it from invasion. Can’t possibly be because some asshole thief broke in.
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If it was adequately protected from invasion, he wouldn’t have been able to get in, would’ve he?
The Mother in the OP thinks that (due to cultural reasons), the neighbourhood is her community. light strand hasn’t bothered to correct this view (and no, taking the child home and saying “she was in my house”, is not the same as saying “she was in my house, now keep her the fuck out”) and now they’re bitching.
light strand, seems like the kind of like the person who doesn’t bitch when everyone shoves all their workload onto them (so people think it’s ok), then bitches when they can’t handle it. The mother in the OP knows her child is wandering the neighbourhood and thinks it is ok. light strand knows this, and doesn’t correct it.
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Does she really have to be told that her daughter shouldn’t be wandering into other people’s houses? It seems like that would be the default assumption to make.
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Well, according to light strand, the mother thinks that yes, it is ok. Maybe it wasn’t the default assumption to make in her previous country. Hell, some people assume there’s a God, and that’s not the default assumption to make.
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Well, let’s see; when my husband picked her up, and carried her out of the house to her own driveway, while she was screaming bloody murder, I didn’t see her mother, but when she came flying out of the house to give my husband the evil-eye, and he said, “She was in my house” I kinda expected that she would have gotten the idea that her daughter was not welcome in our house.
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Actually, the idea she would have gotten is that you found her daughter in your house, and you were returning her home. Sure, she wasn’t meant to be in your house, but the mother doesn’t seem to be aware of this, and you failed to make her aware. If her mother was thought fed her chillies every morning for some unknown reason, and you knew, would you bother to correct her? Sure, it’s not your fault the kid is getting chillies, but you could easily stop the problem.
light strand, grow some balls and stop being so damned passive-aggressive.
Go You Big Red Fire Engine, What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you the retarded child of your parents?
Workload? Chillies? Passive-aggressive? What the hell are you talking about?
If I grew balls I could be my husband’s boyfriend. We could be the first gay marriage.
Fire Engine, please stay out of light strand’s house. She doesn’t like it when you go in there. Also, leave her dogs alone, they don’t like to play with you.
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Go You Big Red Fire Engine, What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you the retarded child of your parents?
Workload? Chillies? Passive-aggressive? What the hell are you talking about?
If I grew balls I could be my husband’s boyfriend. We could be the first gay marriage.
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DAMMIT lightstrand people are getting thought fed their chilles and you are just fucking sitting there like a bump on a fucking log. Have you no conscience woman? Do you care for no one but yourself? Unleash those Hounds from Hell and the authorities be damned! Before you know it thought-fed chilles will be storming the beaches of Mother Australia! Can Brisbane be far behind? WILL YOU NOT FUCKING THINK OF THE CHILDREN? WHAT KIND OF HEARTLESS BEAST ARE YOU?