I may have just gotten my neighbor's dog killed, and I don't feel even a little guilty.

How long has it been since a RhymerDrama thread? A week, you say?* Too long!

And now the story.

My next-door neighbor has a large, unfriendly dog she does not keep caged, leashed, nor properly fenced.^ I don’t know the breed, partly because I don’t know much about such things and partly because I don’t care enough to find out. What I do care about is the dog’s propensity to escape from the neighbor’s property and roam the street looking for flesh to bite. It’s lunged at me, Kim the Rhymer, and Cinderella the Rhymer on multiple occasions, as well as other people who live on this street. Each time we complain, the owner swears that her dog would never, ever actually harm anyone, that we’re overreacting, that it will never happen again, and that **we **need to respect the **dog’s **space. When we point out that the dog’s space does not include the street, the sidewalk at the end of the street, or other people’s driveways, its owner says that it’s just a dog and doesnt understand that.

Yesterday afternoon, my stepdaughter took out the garbage, as that is what civilized people do when the bin is 3/4 full.** Our garbage can is in the back yard,^^ behind our fence, which does have a working gate. REallyI should say that Cinderella tried to take out the garbage, because she was unable to finish. You see, the dog was roaming again and was in OUR yard. It chased her around for a bit, but she managed to stay just far enough ahead of it to close the gate behind her, trapping it in our back yard.

I won’t lie. We Rhymers are not always of one mind about how to deal with the world. But in this case we were all of a single opinion. Before I could even make a suggestion, Kim had already grabbed the phone book and looked up the number for animal control, and as soon as she found it I immediately called. They arrived with shocking efficiency–within two hours–and took the beast away.

That was yesterday. This morning the neighbor knocked on our door in fury. Why hadn’t we called her to let her know her dog was on the loose? (She was at work and we don’t have a work or phone number for her.) Why couldn’t we just wait until she got home and could get the dog? (It’s not our responsibility to look after a canine that just tried to eat one of us.) Don’t we realize that she’s under a court order to keep the dog under lock and key because it’s already bitten someone? (No, as you never told us that, and in fact this revelation exposes you as a liar when you say the dog is no danger to anyone). Don’t we care that we have made it look like she’s violating the court order and as a result her poor baby may be murdered? (No, we don’t. Well, that’s not true. We’re kind of hoping the dog gets put down, or at least I am. Also your dog is not a baby, as it is not a person. You and your dog may of the same species, however, as you are clearly a stupid bitch.)

I’m sure there will be additional drama in time and will keep y’all posted if said drama is sufficiently outrageous or amusing.

*I don’t actually know. Why on Earth would I keep track of such a thing?

^There is a fence on the sides of her property. However, there is no gate. To escape the fence the dog need only walk parallel to it and to the street. The neighbor is…confused…about the meaning of the word fence.

**This I mention because I have seen the neighbor in question drag overstuffed bags to her outside can on multiple occasions and begin cursing loudly when the bag breaks and she has to clean up the mess.

^^Mentioned because of the trifecta of stupidity: the neighbor leaves her bin on the street for days at a time.

You’re a better man than I.

I would’ve tossed a rat poison-laden meatball over the neighbor’s fence the first time it lunged at my wife or kid.

I confess that not long ago, I was driving to work in the morning when the dog, roaming the street and being menacing, got in my way,and I gave serious thought to running it down. But I decided that would be wrong.

I understand.
My stance has always been that if you don’t want to risk losing your pet, keep it inside. If you let it roam, you have to accept that you’re risking that it will wind up at the shelter, hit by a car, etc.
I have indoor cats that I love, but I’ve always felt that if someone’s cat kept coming into my yard to kill the birds that feed at my bird feeder, I would not feel bad at all about trapping it and taking it to the shelter. The decision is even easier when you’re talking about a dog who could potentially hurt or kill a person. If the dog is killed, it’s the owner’s fault, not yours.

Yeah, even a small animal can jack your car up really bad.

By ‘additional drama’ I think what you mean is ‘there will be A LOT of drama.’ The neighbor sounds like a drama queen.
You may need to join forces with some of the other neighbors to help build your case (not a legal case mind you, just other people to explain to her how dangerous her dog was).

I am informed by CtR that the neighbor on the other side of the Bitch, upon hearing this news, replied, “YEE-HAW!”

Where I live it’s metro-rural. Right outside of the city limits are farms and dairy cows with houses far apart. When I used to run and now on the handcycle, any dog that is threatening and off it’s property gets a face full of pepper spray and the owner gets a visit from animal control.

What I find endlessly amusing, in a look-at-the-hopeless-psychotic sort of way, are dog owners who, when their precious makes a beeline for some unsuspecting child or octagenarian, will say things like “Raper, don’t go near other people”, or possibly “Nut Ripper, leave the hapless child alone now”, all delivered in that chirpy voice that mothers use to gently admonish a child. Do these people actually think they can carry on meaningful conversation with a dog? Or that the dog, upon hearing these words, stops to reflect upon the course of action and the possible consequences? “Hmmm…you know, I believe she may be correct in her assessment of my behavior, and I shall withdraw forthwith.”

You did right. Kudos for leaving the shotgun in the closet, I’m not sure I would have had the restraint you showed.

I am a serious dog lover, but I have no patience for these half-feral public nuisances and their self-absorbed* owners.

Sometime soon I’m going to find time to do a proper Pitting of my Ex’s and MIL’s dogs.
*typo, now fixed said self-adsorbed. I’m thinking that might actually be better?

Threads like this make me realize how lucky I am to have responsible pet-owning neighbors. A couple of years ago new neighbors moved in next door to us, and their rather territorial male German Sheperd kept escaping the backyard fence. The dog was pretty threatening to us if we went into our own yard (no fences in the front, so the yards are connected). The first time we told our neighbor about this he apologized profusely (we all thought that maybe the gate had been left open and that’s how the dog got out). The second time, he reinforced the backyard fence. The third time, he found a new home for the dog – and he did all of this without being told it was needed.

I’m glad that your neighborhood menace appears to be on borrowed time, Skald.

Can you get a copy of the court order? Even though you didn’t know about it before, it completely justifies your actions on a factual level. Not that you weren’t justified anyway, and would make it very easy to support your decision to anyone who might be “on her side.”

She’s clearly not rational, so it won’t help assuage her anger, but it will help if she tries to retaliate in some way, as it will prove to any relevant authorities that her little snookums wasn’t a big marshmallow like she says.

In other words, getting a copy couldn’t hurt, and could really help.

Yup. Me too.

As I was reading your post, I kept thinking ‘poor dog, blame the owner, not the animal’ until I got the the part where he’s bitten before and is supposed to be under lock and key. Now, I still feel bad for the dog, because he has an idiot for an owner, and her idiocy may end his life, but this is entirely HER fault. What a stupid, stupid woman. I hope she gets fined up the wazoo.

I also still hope the dog is taken in and finds a nice big farm to go to where he can roam for miles and miles and live out his life hunting rabbits and being a farm dog. But we all know that won’t happen. Poor untrained doggy.

If she gets this dog back, I would make a really big stink out of it.

Research the “Dangerous Dog” statutes in your state and see if this dog qualifies (it probably does as it was supposed to be under lock and key for biting someone already). If this dog is a dangerous dog and it was caught unsecured, she should be liable for the expense of having Animal Control come and get it, having it euthed and any other fines associated with not having it secured.

I don’t think there’s going to be any expense. Cinderella asked when they came, and they said no, as they knew who the dog belonged to already. I tend to think they already knew about the situation and were waiting for an excuse.

Yeah, I think that the dog could have been a good dog with proper training at the proper time in its life.

The thing is, the owner is not keeping it confined. It’s bad enough to have an untrained dog, but if it gets out repeatedly then that’s the owner’s fault completely. She knows the dog is aggressive, she knows it gets out, she won’t fix the damn fence. It’s a pity that she won’t have a bigger punishment for not taking care of the dog properly.

Sounds like installing a gate on her fence would have solved everyone’s problems.

I don’t think that installing a gate on her fence would have done the trick. First of all, the OP doesn’t have the authority to go around installing gates on other people’s property, even if he wanted to. Second of all, it wouldn’t have solved the root of the problem, which is that the woman was not going to take care of her dog. She’s a complete dumbass, and sounds like she’s aggressive and ready to blame everyone else for her problems.

I’m guessing that mswas meant that the woman could have solved her and the neighbours’ problems by installing a gate; not that Skald should have done.

Not to mention Skald’s gate was closed yet the dog still got into the yard. Sounds like a gate on the neighbor’s yard might not have worked either.