The dumb bitch who lives across the road

Okay, it’s late, I’m sleepy but you know, I just can’t let this rest.

I’ve bitched about her before. Remember the fun with the 911 calls and the outpouring of public assistance for this total waste of space? Yeah, well, the bitch is back. But this time she did something right in front of my face and I reacted to it without a thought.

I heard a dog yipping it’s head off, a dog in total abject pain and I looked out my window to see this total fucking cunt carrying this dog by it’s neck! I didn’t even think about it, I threw my pen across the room in the middle of my Physics homework and blasted out my door and yelled, “you put that dog down right now! You can’t do that to that dog!” I mean, really folks, I didn’t even think about it. I just couldn’t believe that she was CARRYING this dog, yipping and howling, across the road by his neck!

And as I stepped out and found myself YELLING at a neighbor (something I’ve never done) I very suddenly realized this woman could be a total whack job! She could have guns or whatever! I have NEVER yelled at a neighbor like that! I was shocked at myself but she was hurting this dog and I reacted purely from my gut…

Anyway, she let go of the dog and then just dragged him by his collar home… but I wonder what she did to him once she had him inside…

I yelled at her that I was calling animal control. She yelled back that I was a total “bitch cunt” and to go ahead. But for all her words she wouldn’t answer the door when they finally showed up (three hours later).

To my knowledge she still has that dog over there. And I want to go steal it. Yeah, I know, not nice, bad karma, but that’s how I got the dog I have now… I stole her from someone who beat the shit out of her… fuck me running but I should just put up an abused animal sign or something… shit. It just really tweaks me to no end that this total worthless space of life is tormenting a perfectly good dog.

That cunt. I hope she drowns in the toilet. I hope her head catches fire as she watches Will and Grace. I hope her entire body turns into the very shit that she is…

Hate for hate is bad but I’m so angry at her and the lack of response by the supposed authority of the “animal control” department that I am in despair at the moment…

Sheesh! Please tell me I’m not alone here, in running out and yelling at a neighbor… or being upset by this. By the Gods! Please tell me I’m not alone in this!

Well, I’ve yet to reach the point where I actually have to yell at a neighbor, but with the wackos around us, it’s only a matter of time…

Directly across the street from us is a non-English-speaking family (my older brother thinks they’re Persian, because they act like Persian friends of his). Anyway, every single one of them has their own cell phone (there’re at least four semi-permanent residents to that house, but I’ve seen at least two dozen different people stay there for several days). The annoying part is how they have their conversations… whenever one of them wants to talk on the phone, they go out front and talk really loudly. Which wouldn’t be obnoxious in and of itself, except they always seem to be angry… Second, they often have loud, drawn-out arguments amongst themselves, so loud that the entire neighborhood could clearly hear (except they don’t speak English while arguing, so I don’t get to check out the juicy details). Several of these arguments have been so horrible that I expected violence to ensue, so I’m always ready to run outside and wrestle someone to the ground, if need be.

Anyhoo, I suppose everybody’s gotta have their crazy neighbor family to liven the neighborhood up, eh?

Byzantine I for one am very proud of you! That dog abusing b*tch deserved to get yelled at.
I’m not sure in this case if stealing the dog would be bad karma. You would be saving the poor dog from being abused. That seems like a really nice jesture to me.
Good luck.

You are not alone.
Jeez, why do people bother to have pets if they’re going to treat them this way? I hope this woman doesn’t have any children.
And it’s true: this person could be a total maniac…she obviously has no concern for life so ** please be careful Byz!** I once lived in an apartment where some idiot with a gun started shooting up the joint. The police came and moved a bunch of us to other units in the complex to get us to safety. They busted this guy but eventually released him and he came back to his apartment. What a comfort to know this freak was living next door to us…

As always, you are my goddess…thank you for standing up for a soul who, other than its futile yipping, had no voice.

what ya gotta do. I’ve been known to throw lawn chairs at cars speeding down my dead-end street. (lots of small kids, including mine awhile back). I’ve pulled my truck out and blocked the road on some repeat offenders and offered to teach them a lesson, ( the opted to stay off the street). I’ve chased a known petty criminal/sex offender (who stole from all the neighbors/peeked into windows) down the street with a staff offering to cure him (police finally arrested him so I wouldn’t be). All in all, I’ve got a bad reputation, but all of the normal neighbors love me. It’s a gamble, but you have to make them believe your crazier the they are. I just hate assholes, and yes I’m somewhat a vigilante. The way I see it, the cops/animal control in your case, usually have their hands full and tied. Most sensible people will usually see the error of their ways when it’s explained in a VERY basic way. Continue your present course, and I WILL have my way with you.
Of course, that’s just my opinion, and someone may piss me off on the way home and I’ll be just another statistic. Sometimes ya gotta do…
Good luck Byz,
later, Tom.

Byz, your gut reaction was right on the money. How could you ignore yelps of pain from a helpless animal? I’m all for stealing the dog, but how to hide it from the pusbag across the street? Could you simply say “No. This isn’t your dog. I know it looks like your dog, but it’s not.”? Maybe she wouldn’t put up too much of a fight. Good luck!

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Way to go Byz. Only good karma would result if you saved this little pooch from the bitch from hell.

I heard this from my brother in law:

HIS brother used to be evil incarnate. Hard core biker. Crime. Drugs. You name it. He used to be on the fast track to prison.

He came home one day and caught the neighbour beating the hell out of his dog with a stick. He walked into the back yard, grabbed the guy by the neck and said “This is my dog now, do you have a problem with that?” The guy just handed over the dog right there.

Now the brother from hell is settled down with a lovely woman with a beautiful new baby. Good karma?

Some people have pets because the want something to control. something lower in the pecking order than they are, something to kick when they are down. Some people have children for similar reasons. Such people are scum.

You did nothing wrong.

My parents used to belong to several dog newsgroups. One time . . . hoo boy. This one particular cretin who seems to lack two brain cells to rub together . . . left his dogs by their leashes tied to a car . . . they were tied on the side of the fucking STREET! So when another vehicle came on the road, on that side, the dogs weretoo securely tied to get away. Both died. The guy writes this long email . . . in the end saying, “I blame myself.”

Well, BIG FUCKING DUH you blame yourself, fuckwad!

Now the kicker: half the list said he shouldn’t feel bad, that it was irresponsible of the driver, or some other horseshit.

My father tried to be charitable, but he couldn’t. So my mom wrote the email, my father in physical shock over reading first the cretinous email and then the blathering drivel of 10 other “you’re not to blame” mindless zombies.

She basically said that he was to blame. I don’t remember her exact wording.

Byz, on behalf of all who look after dogs, thank you for taking the initiative with that sack of flaming cum.

Without knowing the exact details of the story its hard to judge exactly what was going on, but someone hurting a dog is not nessasarily the most evil thing on earth. Dogs still have the memories of there wild society, where a fair amount of pain is involved in determining the pecking order. Sometimes you just have to use pain to get the dogs attention. Now there is obviously a point at which it goes far overboard. But for example, say the dog had just taken off and attacked a 3 year old. Now personally I would go run after the dog, give it a good hard kick to the ribs, and quite possibly bring carry it back across the street by the neck. I would do what ever it takes to make the dog realise that that is not acceptable behavior. It does no good to hit the dog with a baseball bat everytime you walk by it for a week, cause it will have no idea what is going on, but dogs instinctually have a dominant society, and if you don’t make it clear that you are in charge, you may very well end up with a viscious animal that thinks threating people is okay.

Fucking Freak! There ARE NO BAD DOGS! Only BAD owners who have not taken the time to train a dog. Dogs are rarely born “bad” – that is a learned behavior. You can make it perfectly clear who is in charge with proper training techniques, which DO NOT include violence or inflicting pain.

Any human who inflicts pain on a dog, or any other animal, IMHO, deserves a special place in Hell.

Speaking of bad owners… Recently I saw a dog locked in a car with the windows rolled up (mostly) in the North Florida August 95-degree heat of the afternoon. This was at work, so I tracked down the husband of the employee this poor dog belonged to and proceeded to shred his ass. Then I went back out into the parking lot, broke into someone else’s car, rescued the dog and gave it a good drink and doused him with water. This was a puppy, BTW. Dogs – and kids – can be dead in the shade of a 75-degree day in less than 10 minutes.

yes there are bad dogs. I hate people who abuse dogs. but even more I hate people who let their dogs run around as a danger to society. Its instinct for many dogs to be dominant. They see a small child I think its their chance to be dominant, so they will act agressive to scare the child into submission, and sometimes attack to make their point. It is amazingly difficult to train that out of a dog, but pain will convince a dog that you mean business. for the record I have only kicked a dog three times in my life. Each time for snapping and lunging at a kid. All three times the dog learned that it is not acceptable behavior, and never did it again. If it did do it again I would have the dog sent to a ranch, or put to sleep. I have no patience for people who keep dangerous dogs in places where children play.

Do me a BIG favor. Never let me get close enough to you that I can kick you in the ribs and carry you by your neck for any period of time.

Doing EITHER of these CAN and DOES KILL a dog, you cretinous pile of cum.

As for who’s in charge, if you kicked a dog it would either think you were joking or it’d bite back. You think a dog is going to sit quietly and let itself be beaten?

If the dog’s been abused it might react differently, as I’ve seen happen. However. The way you end up with a dog who thinks attacking people is okay is if you teach is such. It is very easy to teach a dog not to attack people without kicking it or carrying it by its neck!

And yes, I have taught dogs in this method. So far, 7 or 8 of them, IICC. If you teach a dog by hitting it, you’ll just make it afraid. That’s called animal abuse, and it’s a crime. You teach a dog by yelping when it does bad things, or using other noises. That’s one of the ways we trained our doberman, rottweiler and both german shepherds, not to mention the two great danes, the labrador, and the two mastiffs we had. The poodle we got before we knew what we were doing.

When a properly trained dog sees a small child is thinks to itself “There is a person! I love people! They are fun. You can kiss them and they will pet you and play with you and maybe give you something to eat! Fun fun fun!” SoOme people see this as aggressive behavior because they do not understand how dogs act. I have only kicked my dog once, and that was out of serious, uncontrollable rage which was not all the dog’s fault. My father came running out of the front yard (with arthritic knees, an arthritic back, etc) and screamed at me for doing that. You do not kick a dog. You can drag a dog by the collar, which doesn’t hurt it nearly as much as kicking or carrying it by the NECK!

Wolfman, people and dogs communicate in different ways. Most of the time, when dogs look like they’re fighting, they’re actually playing. It’s like playful wrestling among humans. What may seem like acting dominant by a dog is actually him/her saying “HI! Do you wanna play wif me?” When a child flails his/her arms, the dog takes that as a playful thing.

Oh please spare the sanctimonious crap. I damn well know when a dog is playing, and when it is serious, the sound and actions are extremely different. Ive raised or trained at least 25 dogs, so spare the lecture.

Maybe I’m unusual. When I kick something I have a fair idea how hard I’m kicking. There is a get attention kick which is well short of a break the ribs kick. And I doubt if many people short of Jet Li could kill a decent sized dog with a kick. They get kicked by horses and just get up and limp away.

The is a difference between abuse and disciple. An abused dog will become psychotic and not respect anything. True disceplening of a dog comes in many steps. Froma dirty look, to a stern no, to a harsh collar jerk. On very rare occasions when a no fucking around aproach is called for a quick kick will work.

The problem is not all dogs are well trained. Most of the dominance issues come up while the dog is still young annd hasn’t been properly trained yet, and the is not one I will fuck with.

The other thing is a dog rescued from the pound. They often have little doggy psychosis. Some of them you can tell have been beaten badly, and physical punishment will never do anything to help them,so it is pointless to try. usually these end up sent to a ranch eventually, but they are worth a little effort to rehabilitate through love and attention only, it seldom works, but its worth it to try, as long as no children are put in danger. Many of them have serious dominance issues however. And if you are completely unwilling to deal a little pain back, then it will never give you any respect.(I’m talking more about a choke collar training session, before you overreact, not kicking). But usually they will very quickly learn that you are the boss, and they have nothing to fear if they don’t misbehave.
Like I said physical punishment is a last resort for a dog, but the surprise, and the dominance aspect of it make it so you never have to do it again.

Apparently, you’ve never been attacked by a dog. I have. I was high-school age at the time, around 15 or so. I had walked a girl I was seeing at the time to her house and was walking back to school to wait for my own ride home. Three dogs, evidently irritated that I had a heartbeat, charged, barking and biting. I ran after one of them got a hold of my ankle. Were there only one dog, I’d have broken the damn thing’s ribs without a second thought.

So, go fuck yourself. When a dog has its teeth in you, it deserves pain or death, whichever’s appropriate.

Postscript: this happened in New Mexico, where the law is (or was at the time) that citations for unleashed animals and the like attached to the ANIMAL, not the owner, which meant that the owner could opt not to pick up his dog from Animal Control, let them eventually destroy it, and never have to pay a fine. What a way to run a railroad, eh?

You’d be surprised . . . or maybe not . . . by the number of people who do not know this sort of thing. What kind of dogs did you raise/train?
<Maybe I’m unusual. When I kick something I have a fair idea how hard I’m kicking. There is a get attention kick which is well short of a break the ribs kick. And I doubt if many people short of Jet Li could kill a decent sized dog with a kick. They get kicked by horses and just get up and limp away.>

We’re not necessarily talking about large dogs. And I know horses are incredibly strong. They also kick with a hoof the size of a dinner plate. Human shoes have far less surface area, so while a horse might stun a dog, a human shoe could tear the connective tissue between a dog’s ribs. Anyone who kicks a dog who’s just standing there, if that person takes a step and then kicks, probably has a good amount of force behind it.

<The is a difference between abuse and disciple. An abused dog will become psychotic and not respect anything. True disceplening of a dog comes in many steps. Froma dirty look, to a stern no, to a harsh collar jerk. On very rare occasions when a no fucking around aproach is called for a quick kick will work.>

Or an abused dog will whimper and run away at the slightest movement. I was conditioned to think that whenever anyone made a move toward me, they were going to attack me. So instead of remembering that I had a black belt in Tae Kwon Do and quickly dispensing of them, I was terribly afraid to the point where I cried.

**The problem is not all dogs are well trained. Most of the dominance issues come up while the dog is still young and hasn’t been properly trained yet, and the is not one I will fuck with.
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They can be solved with proper training at a later age.

**usually these end up sent to a ranch eventually, . . . **

What is this ranch to which you have referred several times?

Many of them have serious dominance issues however. And if you are completely unwilling to deal a little pain back, then it will never give you any respect.(I’m talking more about a choke collar training session, before you overreact, not kicking).

There is a VAST difference between a choke collar and carrying a dog by the neck. The former, given the thickness of a dog’s skin, won’t do much. The latter can and does kill. The former isn’t so much painful as annoying, while the latter can and does do more harm than good.

Like I said physical punishment is a last resort for a dog, but the surprise, and the dominance aspect of it make it so you never have to do it again.

If that were only true . . .

Its not one ranch in particular. I used to know a few old cattle rancher who had huge spreads. They would happily take most dogs that had too much agression to be a pet. The dogs were happy as hell running around the ranch, not having to deal with people much. They had a pile of hay somewhere in a barn for the winter, but most of the time just patroled the yard and kept away the ground hogs, badgers, and other hole digging pests. Unfortunately they didn’t want more than three or so at a time out of fear that they would become a pack and start trying to take down the cattle, so some of the dogs had to be put to sleep.

Started off with Collies, Border Collies, and Aussies.(I didn’t have sheep or anything, I just think that herding dogs are the smartest, and nicest dogs around). Then I got really discouraged about the genetic weakness of purebreds and started getting most anything from the pound, or just trained other peoples dogs. Got a couple of them CD, and one CDX. Several others were good enough, but I just didn’t bother with the certification, since I wasn’t training or selling for money.

I think what you did was right on! I do think that it is ok to spank a dog if you catch them doing something wrong, but it sounds to me like your neighbor was way over the line. As far as stealing the dog goes, you better find a home for it first. Is there any no kill shelters around you that would take it? You can always claim you found it as a stray. We got one of our dogs from the Humane Society and they said that a guy walked in with her and wouldn’t fill out any of the paper work and just mumbled something about getting rid of all their animals. She had worms and was malnourished as well as not being at all trained. I have wondered if the guy that dropped her off didn’t actually do a little covert rescue, or maybe he realized that they were not treating the dog as a dog should be treated.

Keep in mind that in most (if not all) states animals are property and stealing them could get you into trouble. What did the animal control people say? Are they going to follow up at all? I think I would try all legal means of helping fido first and would only resort to more drastic measures if I knew I wasn’t going to get caught.

My dog was trained without hitting. (BTW, smack a dog around-they are MORE likely to attack-think about it: a small animal cannot speak up and say Please Don’t Hit Me.)
The ONLY time my dog was smacked was on the butt when she ran out into the road and was nearly hit by a car. And she has never done that again. I NEVER hit my animals. We usually work with her by telling her NO!
in a VERY stern, loud voice. Then she walks away and hides under the table…and later on we comfort her.
But we do NOT hit her.

Animals do NOT understand why you are hitting them.
Tell me, when your infant knocks his bottle over, do you hit him too?

And this refutes my statements how?