Miller, you could tie a pork chop around his neck.
Contrapuntal, but I can’t stop it! The thought-fed chillies are too strong! No they aren’t, I’ll kick their asses! No I won’t, I’m just going to sit here.
Damn this passive-aggressiveness!
Passive-agressive: “behavior characterized by expression of negative feelings, resentment, and aggression in an unassertive way”. Yup, sounds like you.
What the fuck is wrong with you that you can’t handle conflicts? Why didn’t you tell the lady that you didn’t want her child in your yard? Why did you leave it until something bad happened, then came and bitched about it in the Pit? Have you told the lady the stuff you said in the OP?
No. You just let her believe that letting her kid walk around your yard was ok, instead of informing her otherwise. Apparently, she was meant to figure out all by herself that you didn’t like her kid in your yard even though you’ve pretty much shown her otherwise.
Metaphor. You obviously don’t understand what this is, since I made 3 of them, but you don’t seem to understand the obvious points. I’ll make it simple just for you. Mother is obliviously doing something stupid you don’t like. You don’t bother to tell her that you don’t like it, and something bad may happen. Something bad happens. You bitch about it in Pit.
Then again, sounds like your classic pit thread.
So you man the big-ass eight foot privacy fence with a padlock on the gate wasn’t a big enough hint that I didn’t want her in my yard?
Read more slowly and carefully. She never got in the yard. The yard is protected by a fence set 12 feet back from the property line. The child was in her house. On more than one occasion. Do the mothers of Brisbane routinely set their disabled children off to explore the neighbors’ houses? How many times would I have to inform you that you did not fucking know where your child was before you saw the light and behaved a bit more responsibly?
By yard I mean all of the property not including the house. That’s the way I’ve always used it, only part of our yard was fenced off.
And can you please tell me where light strand told the mother that this was not ok at all? Because the mother seemed to think it is fine, and light strand didn’t really show her otherwise. In fact, does the mother even know she was in her house 3 times, or did she only bother to inform her once?
I don’t know, how many times did light strand inform the mother of that? According to this thread, once.
How many times did light strand tell the mother, “You know what, the neighbourhood isn’t your babysitter? I know you think that, but no-one else does.”?
Sure, the mother is wrong in thinking that, but light strand is also partly wrong in not informing (and seems to foster the behavior) the mother.
Fighting ignorance? Start with your own home.
Uh, how about when Mr light strand plopped said kid, kicking and screaming on her own property and told the mother, hey, she was in our house, uninvited? I think he probably told her then.
I got the sense, even though light strand didn’t say it out right that the mother dismisses any complaints by saying, “Well, in OUR country, we did it this way, so too bad.”
Either way, I’m sorry, Mom has to be an idiot to know that wandering around strangers’ homes when she has been brought home kicking and screaming, when said kid is disabled is a BAD IDEA. Jesus.
light strand didn’t actually say the husband said anything other than “she was in our house”, so I don’t don’t think he told her then at all. Now to a person who thinks this is ok behaviour, this means nothing.
Sure, it’s a damned stupid thing to think(that the neighbourhood is some sort of day care centre), but light strand took the easy road and didn’t bother to correct her. There were consequences to this.
Ummm. WHAT? If her mother was thought fed her chillies?
Owwww! {b]GYBRFE** what in the HELL are you talking about? I’m trying to figure out that sentence, and I’m guessing that it means that “What if the mom fed the child chiles every day, would you then stop the mom”.
If so, what in the HELL are you talking about? What does some strange parent’s feeding of their child have to do with that parent not providing adequate supervision of their child to the point that that child is invading one’s own home"?
As to light strand supposedly not having the balls to tell her. It sounds as if her husband did. It’s not light strand’s fault that this woman is so mind-numbingly ignorant of the reasonable and normal way to behave as a parent in this country.
Even if she came from a country where moms go off for days at a time and safely leave their children alone in the neighbor to be watched, only the most idiotic person would be unaware of the social mores, customs and laws (and as someone else said, her lack of attention is SERIOUSLY bordering on neglect).
So how is it light strand’s lack of balls that is at fault for this neighbor woman’s not knowing these facts? How was light strand supposed to know that this woman needed to be sat down and informed of something that we ALL Know?
How is it possible that you’re this stupid? Can we get some kind of a scientific study done? You may be invaluable to future understandings of drooling idiots.
I’m still trying to figure out what’s wrong with feeding your kid chilies…
Thought was a typo, I didn’t notice until now. Apparently my hands randomly add in words instead of extra letters now.
It was a metaphor about a hazardous act which is perpetuated by ignorance, which could easily be corrected.
He said “she was in our house” according to light strand, not the same thing as saying “she was in our house, and we don’t want to see her there ever again”.
I will provide an example, I used to have roommates, they were rather messy. Now, I am passive-aggressive, and I once got so sick of their mess that I cleaned it up and when they came home I said, “I cleaned up your mess for you”. Does this tell them that I don’t like their mess? Perhaps, but it actually doesn’t. Did they stop making mess? No. Because I never actually told them I didn’t like it, I took the easy way out.
Because to me, it seems damned obvious that this woman is oblivious to what is so obvious to us. I’ve had neighbours who used to live on farms and thought it was their goddamned right to let their dog roam free. You’d think the fact that everyone else kept their dog fenced up (and that what they were doing was against the law) would’ve been a sign to them, but no. People just continue what is known to them unless specifically told otherwise.
Well, I ate chilis every day for a long time. God knows you don’t want your kids to turn out like I did.
A typo for WHAT? though?
What are you trying to say?
The child is 7, a lot of chiles aren’t all that toxic. Some are, but some cultures, just as you are trying to defend the mother as being part of here, actually DO eat spicy things even at a younger age.
It is not a good analogy for other reasons also. What a parent does inside of their own home is not easily observed by neighbors, so even if it was something toxic and dangerous, the neighbor likely wouldn’t see it to be able to report it. (which yes, you should IMHO).
Second, it doesn’t speak to the fact that unlike feeding a child chiles, the problem in the OP is that the neglect of the parent allowed the child to do something which DIRECTLY affected light strand.
GYBRFE, you can not POSSIBLY be as dense as you seem to be here. ANY reasonable person, upon being presented with a screaming, kicking bundle of their own child, and being informed “she was in our house”, would have to be near braindead to NOT be able to figure out (especially with the aforementioned social mores, customs and laws of their new country in mind), that this was not acceptable.
I highly doubt that the attitude with which **light strand’s ** husband presented her child back to her was anything other than annoyed, irritated and his “she was in our house” was probably light years from all sweetness and light.
Come ON!
Again, not the greatest example. You were all roommates sharing the same space. His mess didn’t invade your WELL guarded and obvious personal property. Also, the delivery is pretty important, if you were all non-assertive and sweet about it, yeah, I can see where they’d go “cooooool, we hit the jackpot for roommates”.
Whereas if you’d been disapproving and irritated in voice and manner, most people would “get it”.
Slightly better analogy.
However, as you yourself pointed out, this woman has only “officially” been told once. I still fail to see how light strand lacks balls since she couldn’t possibly have been aware of this woman’s extreme cluelessness about others’ homes and not invading them, until AFTER the “hauling the kicking screaming child back home” incident.
I well imagine that if the child is found in the family room again, that this idiotic woman will be told in no uncertain terms. But again, that’s not something that is apparent on the first incident.
Light Strand you might want to consider getting a restraining order against the parents and child from coming on your property.
Such a restraining order would give you and your dogs a level of protection if the kid messes with your dogs or property again. I know you probably don’t want to escalate things with your neighbor, but in my opinion they escalated it when they called animal control for something that should have been handled in disccussions just between the two families.
Hmmm, so if I popped by Brisbane and stole all your stuff, you’d be okay with it Go You Big Red Fire Engine, because you never told me I couldn’t? Sweeeeet.
Now I’m thinking about getting a bunch of piranhas to weed out the less bright of the neighborhood kids who break into my house…
Pretty much:
If you break into her house and take her things, it’s because SHE didn’t adequately protect them. So yeah, go for it! And it’s a guarantee she won’t prosecute, as it’s her own fault.
The times they are a changing.
When I was six back in 56 most of the kids my age and up walked or biked to school unsupervised and without crossing guards. In my case that was at least 9 blocks. Dogs were on the loose everywhere, often following the kids to school. Getting bitten though not often was not unusual and I never heard of anyone getting sued. I myself was bitten twice in my formative years. Big Deal. Nobody got mauled, nobody got abducted and you rarely saw a teacher on the school grounds when we played at lunch or recess. We never saw an adult around where we played pickup games on empty lots or parks.
Back to 2006and the OP.
That hole in your fence wasn’t a really good idea was it? Whether it was a mentally challenged child or a normal one, a hole in a barrier in their limited world is an attraction, particularly with a couple of cute bodies on the other side vocally displaying eagerness for contact. Unless the kid has had an experience suggesting negative consequences, she will breach the limitation of the fence and expand her world . If it isn’t this kid it would be some other kid. Bet on it.
Plus, if the child was injured whilst trespassing - err, excuse me, “self-actualizing and edutainmently empowering via creative exploring” - in the other house, you know there’d be a lawsuit against the homeowner…and a big one too, like Old Testament wrath-of-God big.
The lesson here is that no child ever does anything wrong and everyone in the world is responsible for the behavior of a child except that child’s parents.
Children can come on your property at will, do what they want and you can do nothing to stop it or in any way hold the parent or child responsible.