Goddamn Chinese-made CRAP!

The answer to why Chinese products are CRAP isn’t as simple as you make it out to be. It surely can’t be pegged solely on a political system. There’s a much more simple explanation for why Chinese products are crap. It’s…(wait for it) BECAUSE WE BUY IT!!! (“we” meaning not me when I can help it)

China is exporting CRAP products to the U.S. by the shipload and the people of the U.S. are buying those CRAP products. They quickly get the message that quality doesn’t matter when they are selling to consumers who are happy to buy effectively disposable goods. The Chinese are merely providing the market with what it apparently wants, and I don’t judge them negatively for this. We vote with our dollars, so to speak. In this case, a large number of American consumers vote for CRAP quality items.

I suspect that there are a lot of other countries that don’t see all the CRAP Chinese products that we do. There’s a reason for that.

Come on now people, it’s not racism to say “Chinese factories make shitty tools”, or such. It’s a damn FACT! (IME) of course

I am in the building/mechanical trades, and have used every power tool known.
In 25 years, I have never seen a China manufactured tool last for shit compared to tools made in the US, UK, AUS, Europe or any “western” country.

On the job, Chinese made power tools won’t last a damn day sometimes.

I have seen people get HURT more than once using cheap ass Chinese tools ie. sockets shattering, lifting devices failing, etc.

I am sure the Chinese are more than capable of making quality tools, it’s just that they are using inferior materials/manufacturing methods

Yep, I’m gonna trust my life (or my employees) to that $148.95 “8 ton hoist” from Harbor Freight.

Nope, I will spend $1200 on shit I know won’t collapse and kill somebody.

Get off your PC (“your a racist”) high horse on this shit. Anybody that actually uses tools to make a living knows where I am coming from.

People can die when inferior tools fail, get fucking real!

Why make the distinction? Isn’t shitty workmanship international? Why please why make the distinction?

In My opinion there is racism going on when you choose to add a race to your assessment of the workmanship of any paticular product. Is china worse than everyone else? Or are you just not seeing that an awful lot of what we buy and use is made in china, so it seems like all those shitty things you’re buying “come from china”

I missed this silly ass post on my way to the silly ass post following yours. Glad I stumbled upon it so that I can give you a hearty FUCK YOU for trying to portray what I said as “blatant racism.” Saying “products” is a fucking light-year away from saying “people” and your attempt to draw the connection says more about you than it does about me.

products are the intellectual and physical output of one or more people. I’m simply saying that by criticising the product you are indirectly criticising the people who made it. Which is fine if it’s true. But you chose to include the word ‘chinese’. so you are criticising the output of specifically chinese workers. So on some level you are criticising the people.

I said ‘not far away’. Maybe that was wrong. But I stand by my opinion that the statement ‘chinese products are crap’ is still basically racist.

When did China become a race?

Would it make you happy if I said that most American cars are CRAP?

Most American cars are crap. There. Am I “racist” against Americans now?

Yep.
And “china is not a race” is pedantic. the term ‘racism’ is acceptable in these types of context.

Dammit Lobsang, I am saying that tools made in China aren’t worth shit.

And I specified my belief that Chinese people are as capable as anybody of making quality tools, except for poor manu methods and materials.

If I am a racist for that, then we are obviously not on the same page.

You apparently don’t use tools on your job every day.

[QUOTE=voltaire]
When did China become a race?
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Race
Klaatu Racism isn’t bla…er… isn’t binary <whew> As soon as you start pigeon-holing something and then criticising it you are opening yourself up to accusasions of prejudice.

Well, if we’re going to throw around the word “racist” so liberally, I’m going to go ahead and call you a racist for not capitalizing the word “Chinese” repeatedly. You blatantly racist bastard you.

Dude, get a fucking grip. You are about calling me a racist for saying China makes inferior tools compared to some other countries.

Think about that. That would be like UK Dopers being called racists for saying that our beer in the US sucks (I agree)

WTF?

That’s just laziness. It’s 6:40am and I’m wondering why in OG’s name I decided to click on ‘SDMB’…

Oh I remember. It was being woken up after fuckall sleep by the wailing mut from next door.

Let’s agree to disagree about whether there’s racism going on. I’m not saying you’re evil or anything, just that there exists some amount of anti-Chinese sentiment, even if it’s not deliberate, in some of the things being said.

I pitted Budweiser once. The thread quickly grew into a discussion of Good American Beers, and how the imported stuff was crap. I just think you have to think twice about what you say. You can argue it till you’re blue in the face, but on the surface of it the broad statements being thrown around can quite easily be percieved on first impression as racist, therefore they should be re-thought.

Now you are just mumbling…Come on man, how does criticizing manufacturing methods/materials in another country now equate to racism?

You are grasping at straws for a reason I know not why.

Holy crap Lobsang.

I’ve long respected your views and opinions, but on this topic, you’ve gone way the fuck off the deepend. You’re over-analyzing people’s statements, implying meanings that were never there (as the people who you’ve quoted have attested to) and thrown around the race card as if it were candy on the fourth of July.

Get a grip man.

I think I explained.

It seems to me that it’s you who are grasping at straws. Are you telling me there’s nothing racist about “Chinese products are crap”?

This is fucking mad. If I even dreamed of (hypothetically) saying something like “American made sit-coms are crap” I’d never hear the end of it!!

[weird creepy kid’s singsong voice]
*an eye for an eye,
fuel to the fire. *
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these posts have been Contrarified by the Contrarian!

Look Lobsang, here are two broad statements for your perusal:

  1. The Chinese make shitty tools.

2.The Americans make shitty beer.

Question : Which statement is racist?

1? 2? According to your bullshit, both should be, or do us Yanks get a pass?
In that case, are you selectively deciding what is racist or what is not?

Pray tell.

I’m not saying anyone means to be racist! I’m saying the things being said are indirectly racist. Perhaps I might go so far as to say people are being careless. Just because I’m not doing a very good job of explaining it, doesn’t mean it’s not true. I’m just a crap debator, especially at this stupid hour.