Well, it’s simply that the prices I got were a lot different than yours. I don’t know anything about Dell’s coupon codes or anything like that, so I was trying to compare apples to apples (no pun intended) by using the base prices on the Dell and the Apple site. If I’m allowed to use Apple resellers, I can find you great deals on MacBooks certain times of the year that will be as cheap or cheaper than the exact same Dells. I know, because that’s partly how I ended up buying a MacBook Pro in the end. Using the base prices on both websites yielded a price that, for me, was about the same.
Yeah, but the question is, what specific hardward do you have? Because we are saying there is no possible way you can build a PC for $2000 that would cost $7000 on an exactly the same Mac. If there is, please tell me…I’ll just build the damned thing myself and put OS X on it.
I’m no Maccie, but how about you either whip out your spec list or admit you were full of shit with your $1000/$7000 comment.
-Joe
This might be, in part, because the only Mac out there that could accept three SATA drives is the MacPro, which (besides being water-cooled, which is neat in and of itself) has two dual-core processors, and they are high-end processors. Even Apple fans admit that the memory prices are exorbitant, but not all dual-cores are the same.
I still think you’re comparing two apples to a potato.
They are not significantly more expensive.
It’s been shown over and over again that if you compare actual specs Macs are either cheaper or only slightly more expensive. The only way you could get a new system cheaper in many cases is to exclude stuff from the PC that comes standard on a Mac, and standard Mac configurations usually don’t allow you to opt out of some stuff. If you’re comparing a new Mac to a Frankenputer built out of parts that you had lying around, along with some new components, then you’re not doing an honest comparison.
That’s like saying, “It’s outrageous to pay $35,000 for a new BMW when I can build a street racer from the old broken down Honda parked in my front yard with $20,000 in parts and some work.” You might be able to do it, i.e. get comparable specs on the Honda, but you’re not counting your time in finding parts or doing the work, you’re not including the original price of the Honda, and you’re still not going to have a BMW when you’re done; you’re going to have a riced-out Honda.
In this case, you’re also not going to be able to do the thing that really matters most: run OS X. If you’re happy with Windows, there’s really no reason to buy a Mac. If you want to run OS X (and Windows XP, Vista, and *nix) on the other hand, then there’s no comparison. The Macs are the only machines that have that capability.
I think everyone’s point is that there is no such thing as a $7000 Mac that is comparable to a $1000 PC. You might want to check that the number you were actually looking at wasn’t $700.00. Otherwise, I suspect you might want to provide a link to the setup you made that’s costing $7000.
I’m going to have to agree with VCO3 on this one, but it’s actually worse than that.
The PC I got recently cost about 3 dollars, that’s it, and it has about 17 Xeons, and 8 Niagra processors.
The Mac I bought cost $3,928,472.28, and this is the hardware it came with:
the letters “Q” and “D” from the keyboard (the other letters cost too much, I couldn’t afford them)
A 16 pixel flat panel monitor
1/2 of 2gb ram (only the 1’s are stored, the 0’s are not (no pun intended))
The processor is a Z80 6mhz
In other words, you’re a troll. You posted a bitch that you hoped would errupt into a heated discussion, and the when you’re called on your outrageous claims, you say, “I’m not going to discuss it with you apple apologists.”
Fuck you, troll.
Again, crazy people, I retracted the “$1,000” comment about four posts into this thread. Rleax. It’s more like $2,000 vs. $7,000.
If anyone can explain to me how to post here the actual mac configuration, rather through linking or somehow importing the form data, I’ll be glad to do so!
As for the PC, again, I refuse to get into a nerdbox “no no no that cache isn’t NEARLY as potent as the mac’s front side FLAAAAAAABLABLABLABLAB FAT NERD FREAKOUT” discussion. I know what PC I’d like to build, and I can do it for between $1,000 and $2,000. The comparable mac was almost $7,000 with no monitor.
Here’s an idea, start with the base box you’re customizing, and tell us what goodies you added to get to $7,000.
Dude, you’re still avoiding the question. Post your freaking specs. There is no way in hell, and I say this is as someone who works both in PC and Mac environments (my desktop is a PC, my notebook is a Mac), that a $2000 PC will cost $7000 for the equivalent Mac. No fucking way.
Look at Sleel’s links and explain to me how they are coming up with roughly equivalent numbers for the two systems (sometimes with Macs being cheaper), while you somehow are finding an over-three-fold difference?
No. If there’s a way to directly link to the customized one, then I’ll do it, but again, I’m not going to nerdbox out here and type out every level 2 cache and NERD FREAKOUT DORKWARD FAT PIECE OF SHIT list it tourette’s-style for other nerds to camber onto like ravenous subhuman monkey-animals to shred with nerd-teeth.
You know, I don’t even know why anyone is trying to hold a rational discussion with you.
So you’re spouting shit. Why not admit it?
-Joe
Dude, come on - because you know that Macs are better, and you want to believe that they’re comparable in price. More than anything, I’d love to buy a Mac. Would LOVE to have one to run Logic, FinalCut, Max/MSP and Jitter…I think I’d just crap a brick if I could have that. But unfortunately, the configuration I came up with was running close to $7,000, and that was before I’d have to get a KVM switch since it didn’t include a keyboard or monitor!
I think the problem here is that Mac people just need to admit that they like expensive things; a Mac is a status symbol, a luxury item like a Rolex or a bottle of Dom P.
Well, when you put it that way, I can really empathize with your point of view.
So you’re full of shit, basically, as has been pointed out to you repeatedly. I’m not even a Mac guy (I’ve used them for work on occasion), and I know you’re talking out your stupid fucking ass.
Gawd agatha. It doesn’t have to be a nerdathon, dude. Cough up processor, memory, hard disk and video card, and we’ll have more than enough information to make it plain you’re talking out of your ass. And I’m not a Mac user.
But hey, look at it this way; you’ve got Mac and PC users alike in a thread, agreeing with each other! Okay, they’re agreeing that you’re an odd little troll, but still, well done.
Ok, ok, I figured out how to “print-screen” and do it.
http://i13.tinypic.com/2q0lieo.jpg
That should be it.
Wow, as someone who really doesn’t care, your behavior in this thread is simply bizarre.
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You can build a computer from component parts, but you can’t make a link to a website.
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You refuse to list the components because you don’t want to engage is the comparison between components, which is the whole point of the request, and indeed the point of the thread.
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You seem to deliberately misunderstand that the criticism isn’t of the difference between $1,000 and $2,000, but rather the $5,000 disparity.
Why even start the thread?