Gods, do I hate this man.

From this story on CNN’s website.

That is, by the way, a reference to the address in which he told his nation that we are now at war. By his orders. This overgrown frat-boy prick seems to be playing some great big game, and he seems real happy about how it’s going. You’re about to tell your country that you’ve led them in to a war, and you’re celebrating with winks and fist-pumping?

I swear, I would like nothing more than to wipe that fucking smirk off your empty, war-mongering head. You disgust me in too many ways to go in to. Fuck you, Bush.

LC

I’m sure he wouldn’t care too much for you either.

So you think it’s acceptable for our president to do his little victory dance just before the cameras come on and he tells his country that we’re going to war? Do you not find it appalling that he acts this way when delivering a message that should be one of the hardest things for any leader to do?

What a complete prick. I hate him.

LC

When the Prez is away from the cameras, let him do all the stupid little gestures he wants. Geez!

What are you, some kinda commie?

Look, two things. First, actually doing things, as opposed to endless wearing talking about things, is very cathartic.

Secondly, he’s about to give a speech, and you know he’s not the best public speaker. So he pumps himself up. So what?

I’d do pretty much the same thing, as much to convince myself, before making a momentous speech.

Not that I favor the President, his views, or many of his actions, but I like to apply a “reasonable man” standard. What would your average, reasonable but not emotionless man, do in a situation like this? Can this be interpreted in a reasonable way?

The worst part was the fact that the cameras werer on hime 7 seconds early and you could hear the producer-type counting him down to 0 so he could start his speech. For the 7…6… part of the count he was wiping a smirk off his face. Everyone I was watching this with saw it. Fuck you Bush. Asking us to have respect for the lives of your people, then fucking have some yourself.

<fist pumping, winking> I feel good.

To be honest, I think you are making too much of this. Even if true, it could be his own way of dealing with feelings and pumping himself up for what he has to do.

Criminey, Bush has finally reached “Dan Quayle” status: Everything he says or does is now automatically interpreted in the worst possible light.

I can see Clinton doing the same human thing, only he’d be expressing the release of tension that comes with a difficult job that’s well begun. :slight_smile:

Several years ago, I remember an incident involving a former President. I’m going from memory, so the details may be a lacking.

The President had given a speech and had just finished shaking hands with the crowd. This was all going on outside. The camera continued to follow him. Not long after leaving the crowd, he called over an aide. This was not a senior aide, it looked like some kid. I don’t remember who he was.

As soon as the kid walked up, the President started screaming at him. I don’t mean talking firmly, I mean red-faced, spittle-spewing screaming. The aide looked as if he was about to die. I don’t know what he did wrong, but I felt sorry for the guy.

Politicians often act in unexpected ways when they think the cameras are off or the public is not around. I don’t think Bush is alone in this.

Do you have any idea how nightmarishly stomach churning it is to have to edit the smirking visages of Bush and Blair for TV reports?

They truly are the worst of all the world leaders to edit. Chirac is not particularly pleasant, Putin a bit creepy, the east asian leaders are all fine, but B+B are the ultimate gruesome twosome. Ultra smarm, ultra smirk, zero sincerity.

I don’t want an average man for President. I want somebody with extraordinary presence of mind and thoughfulness. I don’t hate Bush, as that would imply a certain respect; I pity him for being out of his depth, and despise him for taking up space that should be filled by a better man.

Of course, two years from now when we have a new President, I’ll probably find reason to bitch about him as well.

Or woman.

Or her.

I like your thinking, Janie!

Winona LaDuke (Green Party) for President in 2004!

That is, if Ralph Nader does not get the Green nomination again. I would be equally happy with either Winona or Ralph as Pres.

Angela Davis would be another great choice, as would Cynthia McKinney.

We need to get rid of Crooked King George, but we need to replace him with someone who is truly better, not just the “lesser of two evils.”

Understanding that his emotional outburst was due to his accomplishing a long held goal of beating up on the bad guys, I prefer a president who instead displays the reaction of one who is all too aware of the grave burden of sending American men and women into harms way.

I’d apply for american citizenship in a heart beat if you americans actually got around to voting in a female president. Of course I’ll be 147 by then but still…

Bwah-ahahahahhaha… That was a good one…

Judgment based on a detached account from a reporter who heard something about what the president did before giving his speech. Sounds like a pretty solid foundation to base an opinion on to me.

With all of the valid reasons to criticize George W, you choose to have a problem with a half-assed account of his pre-address preperations?

Way to fight ignorance.

Winona Ryder can’t run for President. She’s a convicted criminal!

What?

Oh…

Nevermind then.

What kind of a fucking punk pumps his fist when he’s getting ready to murder people? What a worthless piece of shit this guy is.