Give me a moment, I want to give you a proper answer
Yes.
I already quoted you in my first post. Do not be coy. As an afternoon’s entertainment, I have no problem with your thread. However, continued insults and a “who, me?” defense will earn you a banishment for trolling.
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You sure are casual about condemning people to Hell. Who else goes to Hell? People who have hairstyles you don’t like?
And it doesn’t surprise me in the least that you don’t care about defending your absurd claims.
The question was fine. You were asked where the Jews fit into your schema and were then asked who you were talking about. If you want to continue to play games, you can leave.
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Theres no ‘who, me?’ defense I didn’t realize you had quoted me and left out what i was responding to also. I thought the Beelzebub reply was quite clever and civil considering I was just compared to a fly on a pile of shit. Was my response to witty?
I apologize for bein a little snappy with Miller, I mixed him up with the last guy. Sorry Miller, can we work on it again?
Person that said “i only see the world only as anal walls” Yeah I compared him to a “internet loser” sorry for that one
People that tell me that what a waste of time it is, then is only proper to ask then why are they still here, fair? No?
No, I stand by what I said and it’s actually a very valid question. Let me answer all three for ya, it’d be my pleasure.
1Religious jew:
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
No Jesus=hell
2Racial jew:
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
No Jesus=hell/ Jesus=Heaven
Saved by grace, not by race
3Nationallity jew
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
No Jesus=hell/ Jesus=Heaven
Let’s put aside math and religion for a moment and talk about Treat the person. What I want a direct answer to is this: Why do you not respond to questions that people ask you? Voyager asked you five direct questions and you replied with a smiley, not answer. I would like to know why.
I’m prepared to accept that by Treat’s set of beliefs, Jews, atheists and pedophiles are all hellbound.
I see no reason to treat it differently than the rules of how kryptonite works, though, i.e. as a self-contained fiction.
Sorry, you’ll have to refresh my memory. List the five questions and I’ll do my best to answer them.
Eskimo: If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to Hell?
Priest: No, not if you did not know.
**Eskimo:**Then why did you tell me?
Your problem is not with me Bryan, it’s with the very words of Christ
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Rom 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
Rom 5:16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
Rom 5:17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Rom 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Rom 5:19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Rom 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
Rom 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
Same issue, really.
I am always amused by the selective quoting of Romans by the sola fide crowd.
For example, people who go right to Romans 5 for their religion have a tendency to act as though Romans 2 was not actually part of the message:
[sup]1[/sup] Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
[sup]2[/sup] But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
[sup]3[/sup] And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
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[sup]12[/sup] For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
[sup]13[/sup] (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
[sup]14[/sup] For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
[sup]15[/sup] Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the meanwhile accusing or else excusing one another;)
Oh sorry, I’ll post the entire book of Romans next time, the entire Bible!, Wow can’t please everyone:smack: I don’t think those verses mean what you think they mean or else you’d realize you are not making a point at all.
That raises an interesting question.
If you – yes, you – were suddenly given the power to save Jews and atheists and so on from hell, would you do so? Do you, as it were, have better morals than your god?
Ah. Is this where you explain that the scripture that tom~ quoted doesn’t actually mean what it says, but something entirely different and self-serving?
So tell us what they mean and why they’re not relevant to your larger point, just after you tell us what your larger point is.
No, I wouldn’t force them to live with someone they don’t love much less like, the only other option is hell.