God's math

Very familiar with Numbers as I have read it numerous times. I don’t have the numbers of each tribe memorized. So firstly I would have to double check your numbers to make sure they were right. Secondly I have no new insight that is not already out there. Believe it or not my life doesn’t constantly revolve around studying numbers from the Bible. My research focused primarily around the story of Christ and His work. You seem to have some insight concerning these numbers so please share or perhaps consider starting a new thread about them.

Not so fast sporty, you need to do a little more research

The Earth’s solid inner core was/is thought to be significantly younger than the Earth itself, so even if the inner core (per your cite) was 1.2 billion years older than previously thought, it’s still younger than the sun.

The sun is older than the earth, though not by much.

That article is about the age of Earth’s core. Unless you want to argue that God made Earth’s core and then waited a while to finish its surface, you’ve got nothing.

Besides, if we’re talking cores (and the article describes only one current hypothesis, yet to be supported or generally accepted), the sun’s core can easily be still older, and the theories behind the formation of the sun and Earth get along just fine without God or Jesus.

I’m really wasting my time here, aren’t I?

I would like to know, in one sentence, what you intend for the purpose of this thread to be about. If there is something else I wish to talk about, I will go start a new thread elsewhere.

Around 200 million years according to the official version and that’s subject to change. At this point in the game it would foolish to hang your hat on these estimates.

OK have fun with that thread, see you later

Sure, I’ll bite. Treat himself is irrelevant; it’s not like he turned a professorship in MIT’s physics department in favor of “research focused primarily around the story of Christ and His work.” Still, allowing nonsense like this particular strain of pseudoscience to fester is a drain on human development. Science is, unfortunately, not something that scientists can do off in an ivory tower completed separated from the general public. Even in theoretical fields, there’s still a need for funding; even theoretical math, which needs no fancy lab equipment whatsoever, is only done at universities (or possibly the NSA and an extremely limited set of industry companies, like Microsoft Research), which require substantial amounts of funding. That funding generally comes from the government, and politicians respond to the public.

In more experimental sciences, you also need more people than just the few PIs at the top. You also need lab techs, people to repair the equipment when it breaks, people to run statistical analyses, people to write code to support experiments, and so on. If there isn’t a scientifically literate public available from which to hire such people, you’re going to have trouble running experiments. More locally, if that public isn’t available in one location, then the lab or facility is going to be located in another location. That means fewer science and technology jobs. It also has a snowball effect: Even if you don’t care about the results of, say, particle physics, having a strong particle physics presence in a location means that other scientists also will like that location, and they may produce results or technology you do care about.

More directly, I wish we could just get over the sort of utter nonsnse in the OP and move on with science and learning. Over the 100 years or so, we’ve gone from not even knowing what atoms are composed of to having an amazingly successful Standard Model of fundamental interactions; from having to do any sort of computation by hand to having several computers in an ordinary household that can do anything from play games to download millions of books almost instantly; from never being able to fly to landing on the moon; and from having regular epidemics of polio to having a grand total of 385 cases worldwide in 2013. We’ve done that by understanding the world with rational, cogent, rigorous thought. Bullshit like magical numerology is an utter waste of time that produces nothing besides delaying further understanding.

You’re awfully evasive for a guy so passionate, Treat.

Oh ok the core formed like a hot marsh mellow then the delicious golden outer crust formed billions of years later, yeah thats it. Waste of time? certainly, thanks for watching the video, see you later

All aboard for Fukushima:smack:

Thanks Bryan, see you later

Well done, and if I may add an observation - because of the work of scientists building on each others’ work and engineers who put that work into practice, Treat has the luxury of advancing his ideas on a worldwide computer network. If he stays limited to math as discussed in the bible, he’s stuck with very very basic arithmetic. Christ don’t do calculus.

Fortunately for them, even people who see no value in science can still benefit from it.

It’s reasonable to base one’s current understanding on the best evidence of the day. Some stranger’s weird numerical interpretation of the Bible is not even close to the best evidence of the day.

By the way, to Treat, as with any conspiracy theory/evidence-free outrageous claim, I must ask this: where do the Jews fit in to all of this?

You know what they say about assumptions Bryan, but more you than me.:smack: Never said I was against science, I’m against pseudoscience and the nonsense that man believes he can think his way out of the problems he has created on this planet. I guess if your a dreamer you can believe it’s all gonna turn out hunky dory.

Theres the million dollar question, answers in your Bible. Revelation 2:9 and 3:9

As an afterthought; fortunately for them, even people who think science is sinful and evil can still benefit from it. The concept that science needs a free and easy exchange and ideas without pre-emptive dismissal actually gives the religious types far more freedom than they’d enjoy if religious-types were in control, because if there’s one thing religious-types hate more than atheists, it’s other religious-types who slightly disagree.

Thanks for the chuckle.

Too bad it changes day to day, you must feel like a wave tossed in the ocean