I have the topper of all toppers, the thread stopper in one. Beat it if you can!
I bought a used car from a major brand dealership last week, to replace my wife’s dead 2001 Taurus. I buy cheap and drive them until they die (vehicles, not wives). It’s a 2006, a bit older than they would normally keep on their lot, but was in really good condition. The wife liked it and, even though the final out the door price was a bit above what we planned to spend (though about $800 under book value), we bought it. As part of the final (3 day long) negotiations I tried to get them to throw in a 1 year warranty. No go, they said they couldn’t even sell me a warranty on that vehicle because it was more than 6 years old. Hmm, that’s odd but not a deal breaker. Because of it’s age it didn’t even qualify for their normal 30 day used car powertrain warranty. Truly “as is, where is”. I’ve bought used cars many times before, I understand what that means.
Less than 24 hours after we get it home, the check engine light (CEL) came on. Figures. I broke out the code reader, it read P0430 - Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 2). That could be either o2 sensor on that side or the catalytic converter itself. It could also be because the car had been on the lot a while and not been driven too much, a remote possibility but a possibility nontheless. Based on that possibility I cleared the code. I called the salesman and let him know what had happened and what I did. He said if it the code recurred to let him know. Three days later, sure enough, the CEL came back on with the same code.
I called the salesman and made an appointment to bring the car for diagnosis. As they looked it over I formulated my plan - if it was a sensor I would ask that they suppply the part and I would put it on myself. If it was the converter I would ask for a 50/50 cost split. I had no bargaining power, but I would ask.
After about 30 minutes, the Service Manager came to the waiting room and said that both o2 sensors AND the catalytic converter were bad - this was an absolute worst case scenario. My research indicated that the parts alone would be about $1,000. Labor could almost double that, it’s a 4 hour job. She (yes, the Service Manager is a she) said it would take them 3 days to get the parts. A bit stunned, I asked how all of that could have gone bad in less than 24 hours. She said that on rare occasions the fuel additive they used could cause those issues in the make vehicle I bought. There was no way to tell if that was the case for sure but, since it could have been their fault, they would cover the entire repair - and replace a burned out marker light and rear windsheild wiper blade they noticed during their inspection!
Do what??? They had no legal obligation to fix anything, that’s what “as is, where is” means, afterall. Of their own accord (no, I didn’t buy a Honda), they stepped up and made it right even though I could never prove it was their fault. Because of that they will lose money on this vehicle, a substantial amount. I profusely thanked the Serv. Mgr., the salesman, and the used car manager who OK’d the repairs. I will give them rave reviews whenever the opportunity presents. I had not bought a car from a dealer in 20 years, preferring the lower price I could get from an individual. You can bet money that next time I’m in the market for a car, I’ll go see them first!