Good overlords in SF & fantasy

Wait, so she’s smokin’ hawt, tends to walk around without clothes on, and you never have to go through a screaming, painful, bloody, gross-fluidy childbirth with her and then pretend it was the most meaningful experience of your life. This is a bad thing?

Get a vasectomy. Nobody laughs at you for getting a vasectomy. They fall over laughing when you explain that you can’t go out drinking because it’s your turn to set on the egg.

Laying eggs is easier? Eggs, once laid, do not grow. (The embryo grows inside, feeding off the yolk.) So if a Martian newborn is as big as a human newborn – and nothing in the books suggests otherwise – the egg would have to be as big as a full-term fetus, plus the shell.

Come to think of it, why do Martian women have tits? (I’ve never seen Dejah Thoris portrayed without them.)

Maybe they’re the missing link between monotremes and other mammals? “Uncle Echidna and Aunt Platypus are coming for Friednorp dinner, kids!”

Sexual attraction adaptation. The Martians want our men! :eek:

Besides, they probably nurse, these egg layers are somehow interfertile with Home Sapiens Sapiens if I recall correctly. I haven’t read the books since High School. I don’t recall the eggs being that large.

I remember John and Dejah Thoris, however you spell her name, admiring “their” egg at the end of one novel. They and the big green guys, Tars Tarkas & Co., HYSHN, kept them in some sort of greenhouse incubator structure as I recall. I don’t remember anything being said about the size of the egg. This is not a place for rude jokes about the size of Martian women’s privates, BTW.

I don’t think I even have any of the books any more. Odd as I have a bad habit of keeping almost all of my books. I must have loaned them out years ago.

Huh? What did I say?

Martian eggs do grow while in the incubator. That’s established by Burroughs pretty early on in the series. Thus, being oviparous in no way indicates that Dejah Thoris’ coochie is anything but incomparably snug.

I was trying to forestall jokes like Scumpup alluded to. He was rather decent about it, too. Good chap. :slight_smile:

Makes sense sorry.

  1. Do you remember that rival or perhaps nerd you bested back when you were a teen and not so benevolent or mature? You don’t, think harder. Yep that kid. Send your people to seek him out and don’t kill or hurt him, but make his life a lot better. Make him think, “Wow that overlord dude really did grow up to be a ‘Good Overlord’.”

Back to the eggs.

Well that sound pretty simple then. A goose egg is small to start with. Now can you find anything about nursing?

And even Aslan has someone above him. In TLTWATW Aslan was said to be “the son of the great Emperor across the Sea.”

WTFDTM?

Bran Cornick, the Marrok, from Patricia Briggs Mercedes Thompson series. While not overlord of all the people in his territory, he is the undisputed ruler of all the werewolves in Canada, the US and Mexico. His youngest son is his executioner. He is both a good man, ah wolf, as well as a good ruler.

However You Spell Her (His) Name.
An attempt to prevent someone from nit picking how I spell Dejan Thoris or Tars Tarkas. :slight_smile:

Oh, I know about the Emperor. But as Aslan is Jesus, and thus the Emperor is God the Father, and Clives Staples was a trinitarian, Aslan & his father are, mysteriously, identical yet distinct.

Captain Ben Sisko of Deep Space Nine.

True, he has superiors in Starfleet Command and he and his starfleet staff merely manage the station at the Bajoran’s behest, but seems to have at least regional autonomy.

He poisoned a planet of refugees in order to flush out one terrorist, instituted a resolution to randomly test ordinary citizens on demand to make sure they weren’t Founders…and threatened to arrest his own father when he balked at the intrusion on his privacy, and even entered a conspiracy to bring in the Romulans into the Dominion War by fraud…and later was guilty by association/ after the fact in a Romulan Senator’s assasination, as well as the murder of a criminal forger.

All done without reprecussions of any kind.

Ben Sisko is above the law.
But he is a “Starfleet Officer”, and therefore he’s a “good” overlord.

Remember that he was also the Emissary, thus at least ostensibly above or at least coequal to the Kai of Bajor.

I came in here for them and for Vetinari.

Though I also think the younger sons just weren’t the men that their fathers, grandfathers, et cetera were. Arutha and Lyam were excellent. Borric and Erland and Nicholas were fine. Whichever one of the boys ended up on the throne, though, had either sons or grandsons that annoyed the snot out of me, possibly both.

So the next Good Overlord Rule:

Peace is bad for your heirs. Get them knocked about in a war or two, preferably on-screen. Builds character. :slight_smile:

Oh, and there’s Tomas (post-crazy) too.