It’s now come to light that Gore told a few fibs during the debate Tuesday night.
That he was on the FEMA plane to Texas for the wildfires.
FEMA says “nope”. Turns out Gore happened to be going to TX for a fund-raiser
The girl in Florida who had to stand during class because there weren’t enough seats.
Principal of school says “nope”.Turns out there weren’t enough seats because $100,000 worth of new science equipment had just been delivered to the classroom
Students at a school in FL have to eat lunch in shifts starting at 9:30 AM
School superintendent says (you guessed it)“nope, ridiculous”. And she knows of no schools in the entire state with this policy.
Will this affect Gore’s credibility? Or will the apologists that have been explaining Clinton’s lies away do the same for Gore? And how many lies can a politician tell you before you begin to question his credibility?
So it’s a lie that there weren’t enough seats, because there is a reason why there weren’t enough seats?
My next question for you dishonest reactionaries on the subject of Gore’s “lies” is, where exactly did he say he “invented the internet”? (By the way, if you include a quotation in which he says anything other than that he “invented the internet”, you fail. And, if you have ever asserted that he said he “invented the internet”, you will thus be admitting that you are a liar.)
Man, I heard about this too dude. I think he will say anything to get votes true or not. I just don’t like lawyers I mean liars.
They just don’t have any credibility. He tried to distance himself from clinton’s bad character but it seems his is coming out now. As my mama always told me “birds of a feather flock together” is not to far off in the Clinton/gore team.
My point is that it is disingenuous to relate a story such as this to create a false picture of the situation. There weren’t enough seats because the room was being remodeled for $100,000 worth of new equipment,therefore the school is probably not in desperate need, as the story by Gore would seem to suggest.
Got any easy answers for the other lies?
Also, I have corrected people on the “invented the internet” story, Al never said it. However the actual quote is just as misleading.
I don’t like Gore either, but he was in the heat of a debate. I think the visit to Texas thing was scripted, but the school girl could have been a mistake. He could have been mis-informed. Of course, he could just be a big, fat, stinkin’ liar too. Who knows? Just be careful about judging his intentions when you don’t really know what they are.
I caught a bit of one of those cable talking head gigs (and this commentator was heartily FOR BUSH), he was talking to the FATHER of the girl who said:
I’m a repubilcan.
There were NOT enough chairs in the classroom for all of the students for a period of three weeks.
So, unless somebody was absent, SOME body was standing.
the point was that the school was unprepared for the students. Gore, instead of relying on generalities, gave a specific that could be (and was) checked.
Do you have any links to back up this debunk? Or do you simply expect us to believe you?
You can see the New York Post’s analysis of the story here. The Post is a conservative rag which has consistently backed NYC Mayor Giuliani against his democratic opponents. This is not a newspaper partisan to Al Gore.
If you are going to reveal supposed lies, please supply proof in the future rather than hearsay or supposition.
Speaking of political lies, please follow the following link to the new report about George Bush’s missing Air Guard service. Apparently 1st Lietenant Robert A. Rogers has found some rather disturbing things about Bush’s record.
EXACTLY where did you get your facts? It’d be nice to see where all this truth of lies is coming from. Unless your friends with the FEMA director, the specific Florida principal and superintendent in your examples?
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School officials in Florida acknowledged yesterday that the 15-year-old girl did indeed go without a desk in science class — for a day. They said she was late for school and it took officials a few hours to find a desk for her.
“We were refurbishing that classroom and in the back of that picture, if you look carefully, you can see probably about $100,000 worth of new lab equipment that was waiting to be unpacked, which is one of the reasons the room looked as crowded as it did,” Mr. Kennedy, the school principal, said in the radio interview.
This exchange between the talk-show host and Mr. Kennedy followed:
Host: “The way that it was framed last night was that they couldn’t fit another desk in there because there were so many students in the classroom.”
Mr. Kennedy: “Right I think that’s a little bit misleading to tell you the truth, because I’ve been in the classroom many times.”
Host: “Ah-ha. A little twisting of the truth.”
Mr. Kennedy: “Yes, I think so.”
and it was only for one day… this from the Baltimore Sun, one of the most democratically biased newspaper in the world based upon a radio station report in Sarasota, FLA. If anyone knows a politics-free news source, or even one that gets it right, please enlighten me.
(Meanwhile everyone agrees about his lie concerning the FEMA ride)
If, after eight years as VP, the guy hasn’t realized that all assertions will be checked by the opposing party, he is a complete idiot. He is incapable of learning from his mistakes or those of his predecessor.
That he was on the FEMA plane to Texas for the wildfires.
He was not. This is an inaccurate statement.
He was in Texas at the time, and he has traelled with FEMA in teh past. Gore’s camp contends that he juxtaposed those facts into an unintentional misrepresentation.
My take: suspicious but largely irrelevant. Whether the V-P was actually on the plane has nothig to do with whether the administration of which he is a part acted efectively in that particular situation.
The girl in Florida who had to stand during class because there weren’t enough seats.
Gore was correct. His point was that classrooms were overcrowded. The example was relevant and accurate.
My take: those who attack Gore on this point are either ignorant of the facts, unaware of Gore’s actual statement, or dishonest.
Students at a school in FL have to eat lunch in shifts starting at 9:30 AM
I have yet to see evidence that this statement is supported/unsupported. Please provide links/cites.
Is it your contention that Gore’s opponent in the debate made absolutely no factual errors in any of his statements?
A lie is a lie is a lie. No white lies there.
However, a lie concerning Bush’s pre-political life as opposed to Gore’s public life during his term of public service… I think the Gore lies are worse.
It’s all tilts on the facts though, Republicans probably use them just as much as Democrats. Republicans must be better at it is all, they don’t seem to get caught.
Maeglin Although the story starts out with unabashed rumor-mongering (i.e. statements such as “very possibly as a direct or indirect result of substance abuse.”) the substance of it is interesting. Which is worse? I don’t know.They are both inexcusable
Spiritus No, it is not my contention, however it seems as though the “personal stories” related by Gore were almost entirely false and as these would have been written before the debate are subject to debate as willfil lie.
Did you read the excerpt I posted?
Keep in mind that I don’t like either of these idiots (Gore and Bush, not you Maeglin And Spiritus!) but the Gore story was all over the radio this morning and prompted this thread.
Student was without a desk for only one day/portion of one day. Principal says this is because classroom was being refurbished and because she was late for school.
My questions: how do either of those points address the question of whether a classroom has enough desks to allow all enrolled students to sit down? Did they take one desk away because a student was late? Did they move desks out of the room in order to stack boxes in the back and then forget where they put them? Does any of this change the information which Gore received in a letter from the girl’s father?
of the point he was making. A typical liberal tactic… taking things out of context. sigh
His point was that there is overcrowding in schools. The desk is now safely in place, it isn’t overcrowding, it was misadministration, misallocation of a desk. Using a temporary human error as a basis for a statement that schools are overcrowded is simply sloppy and wrong. If you are going to make it in the big world, as the President of the singularly most influential country in the world, you had better have your facts straight.
I doubt very seriously that Al Gore came across this information on his own. The problem is when a politician takes the word of these far-wing radicals without checking the facts with their own people first.
There are radicals using completely unrelated stories to build their cases on both sides of the spectrum. But you will find that GOOD politicians check their facts before reporting them to the public.
As will good leaders, be it of a company or a nation.
The information Gore reported was 100% accurate. He related a situation which was described to him in a letter from the waiter at a restaurant who had prepared a meal for his entourage. His recitation of the contents of that letter was accurate.
If we analyze further, he was supporting the position that class sizes were too large. Personally, I do not find a situation in which an enrolled class exceeded the number of desks which would normally (without requiring a special administrative attention to detail) be present in a well-stocked classroom to be a poor supporting example for his position.
