The information you have presented has been twisted to suit your purposes. What Al Gore said was true. I am a Tennessean. My father knew the elder Senator and campaigned for and with him. I was a politically active adult when the Civil Rights Act was passed.
Although the elder Sen. Albert Gore did not vote to support the Civil Rights Act in its final version he did indeed take a courageous stand in support of civil rights. And I remember well why he was voted out of office.
From Border States: Journal of the Kentucky-Tennessee American Studies Association, No. 10 (1995)
Thank you for the welcome. Like most debators, I take the facts that are available and, while they are still true, I apply them where I need them. Facts are facts, and people can make their own interpretations.
Welcome to the Straight Dope, Republican. I hope you’ll post actively here. I agree that Bush’s achievements exceed Gore’s
This is the first time I’ve ever seen Gore’s high school grades mentioned. Do you have a cite?
This difference is huge. AFAIK both Gore and Bush got mediocre grades in college. Gore’s SAT scores were somewhat higher than Bush’s.
Another huge difference is success in the private sector. Bush made millions of dollars in the oil business and the baseball business. Gore worked as a salaried reporter for a few years. Critics will point out that Bush may have had the help of his father’s rich, powerful friends. However, that sort of help would have been available to Gore as well, so it doesn’t explain the difference in achievement levels.
These two statements are unfair slams at Gore. His claim regarding “Love Story” was that a particular reporter had written that in a story. This was true. His claim regarding the internet was ambiguous enough to to be called a lie. At worst, it was a way of sharing credit for an achievement – something politicians do all the time.
A great source of Gore lore is the web site http://www.dailyhowler.com/ Its writer, Bob Somerby, was a Harvard roommate of Gore and Tommy Lee Jones. This site debunks media inaccuracy. It defended Bush at a time when the media were gaga over McCain. It defends Gore all the time. Despite Somerby’s favoritism for Gore and his far left political beliefs, his site is witty and accurate.
There’s a parallel between Dwight Eisenhower and Adlai Stevenson. Stevenson was an intellectual and a liberal. Ike was a poor public speaker, who sought to hide his intelligence. It was a truism in the 1950’s that Ike was an idiot and Stevenson was brilliant. In fact, Ike was very smart, and Stevenson not as smart as he seemed. Ike and George Bush shared a style of being down to earth and not flaunting their intelligence. This style confused their political adversaries, but the voting public loved it.
Er…no. Even in Ann Coulter’s op.ed. opinion, she said that Gore explained that he used the story of Cain and Abel as a metaphorical reference of the move from a herding society to an agricultural society in his book on environmental issues.
Yeah, thats me. You can also look on elitefitness.com for the exact same post. You will notice that 2Thick is a moderator on both sites. He banned me on both sites for strictly personal reasons, those of which are still a mystery to me.
By the way, what the hell were you alluding to?
Also, George Bush the elder went to Yale. I suspect the current President got in on what is known as “legacy.” (I think that “Dad” was in a very powerful, exclusive and secretive club at Yale. Being a member gives you access to all sorts of ways and means.
Republican, I posted a link to the second forum that I found with this post on it. So this is the third. SDMB gets pretty picky about that. I don’t know what the rules are if you wrote it yourself. I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the mod squad.
I used to like Gore when he was a Congressman and Senator. He was very popular and no one thought of him as stiff. When he became the VP, the comics started ribbing him about being stiff and it was sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
He was smart enough to be a good President. What I didn’t like was his willingness to change his image to please the people during the campaign. That was shallow.
President GWB is good with the guys. He was at his best at Ground Zero and, although I rolled my eyes at his flying in on the carrier, the women and men liked it and that was what was important. That was the other good day.
I do think he is too limited to be POTUS. Meanwhile, needs to choose his words or his speechwriters more carefully. There doesn’t seem to be any eloquence anywhere within this administration. That is more important than most people might think.
During one of Clinton’s speeches, the teleprompter went out for fifteen minutes and he vamped it. Can you honestly imagine GWB being able to pull it off?
Well, what I see over and over again, (O_o) is you harassing the members of this message board as a whole. That, plus your sig, plus your autism posting is enough to make me think that you’re just trolling.
We REALLY don’t like it when someone reposts stuff s/he’s already posted on another board, especially if it’s more than one repost.
At most sites, it’s considered good netiquette to lurk for a while, reading threads and posts without making any. This is also true at the Straight Dope. We have certain topics that pop up over and over again, and the wise new poster will familiarize him/herself with the board before inflicting foot-in-mouth disease upon him/herself.
Unsurprisingly, this is false. Bush’s oil businesses went broke time and time again. He never made any serious money until his daddy being in the White House enabled the son to put together a sweetheart deal for the Rangers, in which he owned a paltry 1% of the team, but was entitled to something like 10% of the profits when the team was subsequently sold. Bush even had to borrow the funds for his 1%, since he didn’t have the capital himself.
Obviously, it worked out rather well for him, thanks in no small part to getting the taxpayers to buy him a nice new stadium and a ton of prime real estate. (Cutting taxes only matters after you’re rich, apparently. Until then, it’s perfectly acceptable to raise taxes and put the resulting cash straight into your private investment.) But it didn’t take some kind of business genius to make money buying and reselling a baseball team in the 1990s, a time when franchise values tripled or quadrupled in a very short period.
Right, spooje, I read the cite. The OP did not use the phrase “invented the internet” like so many other hyper right wingers, he used the same words that Gore used, so I am saying the OP’s one statement that I quoted seems to be accurate, in that Gore DID in fact say such a thing. Meanings are not being addressed, stated words are.
