OK, this time we are more or less acting on Mod instructions to open a thread in ATMB.
Let’s start out by agreeing that deliberately posting a major spoiler in** any** CS thread is being a Jerk. (Outside those labels as SPOILERS!, etc).
Next we have the OP’s guidelines as to how he wants his thread to go. Well there a long tradition of threads here at the SDMB not going where the Op wants, sure- but deliberately crapping on the OP’s guidelines just to poke the bear is being rude.
However, The Game of Thrones thread have again been derailed and this time, it’s the fault of the Unsullied (the term “IlLiterati” seems to raise too many hackles).
Look, the HBO show now has had Five seasons plus the HBO website plus DVD extras.
Many, many times in the last few “NO Spoilers Show Discussion” someone has posted a factoid, which is countered by one of the Unsullied instantly pouncing (plus no doubt hammering the “report this post” button like a rat needing a nicotine fix) with some comment like “is that in the show?” or “the RULES say no book mentions”. And, they have been often wrong- since that Unsullied poster simply didnt remember that the factiod was in the show or show material.
In at least one case it was pointed out that the material was from the HBO site, in another the conversation went more like this;
Poster : Factoid.
Unsullied: That’s book spoilers, that is against THE RULES!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad:
(plus no doubt hammering the “report this post” button like a rat needing a nicotine fix)
Poster: Umm, no, here’s the exact lines from the show: “…”
UnSullied: (no response):o
In another some poster mentioned a two word 'name" from the books- and I dont think that phrase was ever in the show material. Massive derailment ensued. But unless you have read the books (in which case you know what it means) the phrase is meaningless to the Unsullied. It didnt spoil anything.
IvoryTowerDenizen’s post to: * If you are concerned about a post, report it and do not berate the poster in this thread.* is a great idea- but too late. In fact that same thing had been posted before, but the Unsullied have ignored it, getting their happiness from picking a nit and berating a poster about it- even tho they were often wrong.
And his post is also a little confusing in that:
*"The “show discussion” thread should NOT include any reference, comparison, information or in anyway bring up the books. At all.
There are other threads for discussing the books and book related items.
We have been moving book related posts to the other threads since the posts have appeared to be innocent mistakes but everyone PLEASE follow the rules and leave the books out of it. If you are concerned about a post, report it and do not berate the poster in this thread. Small, gentle reminders about the rules will be tolerated from one poster to another, but rudeness and giving other posters a hard time will not.
However if it appears posters are abusing the goodwill of the Cafe Society mods and posting book info to push the line, warnings will be issued for failing to follow moderator instructions.*"
Whereas here in ATMB it had been made clear there were no special rules just for GoT threads anymore. And the only "instructions’ had come from SenorBeef, who is not a Moderator AFAIK.
However, the point is really moot. The idea of keeping "book spoilers’ out of the threads is impossible. Not only has the show material deviated so far from the book that no book spoilers are possible (As clairobscur said)-
**no one here has memorized every word from the Show material to the point where they can say that the factoid is book only, not show materiel. **
*Trying to enforce “no book material” is like being King Canute with the tide- you’ll only get your feet wet. *
All you are going to do is encourage the Unsullied to berate what they THINK (mostly wrongly) are book mentions, and make more work for you by hammering the “report this post” button like a rat needing a nicotine fix.
Now, as Idle Thoughts has agreed- I have been careful not to post anything outside the show material. But it’s very easy to make a mistake and be wrong-* either way*.
Why not try this:
No special rules just for GoT threads anymore.
The blurb for the GOT “NO Spoilers Show Discussion” should contain the following:
No Spoilers. This is a hard and fast SDMB rule for all CS threads, unless otherwise specified. If you are concerned about a possible spoiler, report it and do not berate the poster in this thread.
Please do not mention book material. This is a request by the OP. Please do not respond to what you think are book mentions by hijacking the thread with discussion of what the “rules” are. Please do not report them. Small, gentle reminders about this will be tolerated.