Does Cuomo himself use the term “walk back”, or are these just people saying that what Cuomo did was a walk back?
It’s because the things that you imagine aren’t real.
So you feel it’s possible for America to have widespread segregation and still be a great country?
Yes, and I don’t think it’s an uncommon sentiment. Hell, even Governor Cuomo agrees with me (“Of course America is great and of course America has always been great. No one questions that” - except perhaps you?).
To further expound my feelings on the matter: America of the 1940’s could have been even better if it had not had Jim Crow laws, but stopping the Nazis and Imperial Japan was pretty fucking great. We don’t call them the “Greatest Generation” for nothing.
So you think that America was great for those living under the boot of the Jim Crow laws?
And you agree that no matter how great great is it can always be greater?
“Of course America is great and of course America has always been great. No one questions that”
Sure. “great” != perfect. There is (and will always be) room for improvement.
Some sentimental, opportunistic dickhead who wanted to sell books called them the “greatest generation.” Truth is they weren’t any different than those who came before or after them. The average folks were just people who had a world not of their creation thrust upon them. Dying overseas for the ambitions of others was an established tradition. People who romanticize this shit didn’t watch their mothers get raped repeatedly, or rejoiced in greeting their legless, forever damaged daddy back home from the glorious war.
It’s depressing that actual adults need to be pacified with fairy tales. World War II isn’t an example of anything great. It’s nothing but savagery, rape, starvation, privation, suffering, and killing on an unprecedented scale. The same America that liberated the camps turned away desperate Jews attempting to flee Hitler’s Germany. The same country that championed human rights abroad had a dismal, hideous record at home. We aren’t superheroes. We aren’t a thousand points of fucking light.
America has done some great things. We have lofty ideals. We’ve never come close to realizing them, but striving for them is so much more important. And we’ve lost that. This disgusting pining for some mythical past is poisoning our country. The best we could do in the next few years is flush Trump and his ilk back down into the sewers they crawled out of to infect the body politic.
By electing someone like Cuomo? :dubious:
I asked YOU for YOUR thoughts.
So your one of us lefties now! Great!
I don’t think that every American has always had a “great” life (certainly feeling that way about Mollie Tibbetts right now), but in general I don’t have any qualms about describing America generally as a “great country”, or even the “best” country.
No, and I believe (in spite of a number of strawmen in this thread) that most right-wingers would have little difficulty acknowledging that America is not perfect.
On the Left? I don’t know.
For those with some knowledge of history beyond what was taught in fourth grade? It’s not unusual.
Me, I do not like genocide, slavery, oligarchy, and despoilation. As I’ve become older and wiser, I’ve come to value fiscal responsibility. Does that make me ‘on the Left’?
And is America less great today than at that time?
Well, maybe we were greater at some point in history, like say November 7th 2016.
HurricaneDitka, do you or do you not acknowledge that “make America great again” is simply a dog whistle to appeal to whites who long for the days when white straight Christians were unquestionably dominant?
Why did you do that?
Do what? Mention the dead girl?
Do not.
I don’t think so.
I don’t know where on the political spectrum you land.
Why that specific dead girl and not, you know, the thousands of other dead people that have occurred over the years?