Who the hell is the guy who started to sneak up on Neo with a knife? And why the hell was he on a table in the same trauma room with Neo at the end? It was like he was supposed to be a major character that ended up only dropping in occasionally.
I didn’t care for the special effects used for getting the twins around. It reminded me of the library ghost in Ghostbusters.
Overall, I give the movie a C- for scripting, An A for special effects, and a D- for editing. It could have been trimmed by at least thirty minutes. The first one was tightly written and plotted clearly at all times. This one meandered all about the place.
Agent Smith was threatening and malevolent seeming in the first one. He seemed almost like comic relief in this one, though the teaser at the end of the credits suggests that his character may be more interesting in the third chapter. (You did stay all the way through the credits didn’t you?)
Speaking of the credits, it seemed like they took over ten minutes to get through, and named at least a couple of thousand people. If I hadn’t heard of the teaser, I wouldn’t have sat through them.
Overall, I give the movie a C, and hope that the third installment comes on strong.
By the way, if Zion as portrayed in this film is what we have to look forward to, then I have to start rooting for the machines.
That was another Agent Smith, newly downloaded to the Real World. Really.
Oh, and I haven’t been following the Matrix threads and didn’t pick it up from the Movie, but why isn’t Morpheus the top dog? And how long has it been since the first movie in movie time? Were there other “free’d minds” (if that’s the term) before Morpheus, Inc.?
BlackKnight, may I ask why?
Dude. My personal grade would be an A-. Not sure if going in with low expectations due to all the negativity helped, but it basically delivered in all the ways I needed:
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It was pretty. The reason why I love these directors is that they have they images in their head that are just fucking cool and they transfer them to the screen very well. All the costumes in the matrix, the Twins, the chase and fight scenes, Zion. In my opinion, the images that they created were always cool and interesting.
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It made me think. I’m not one of those people who thinks this philosophy is the second coming or anything, but I still find a lot of it fascinating.
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I didn’t know what was going to happen. Not sure if this was because I sat back and enjoyed it, rather than trying to figure it out and predict what was going to happen and be said.
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It left me with a strong desire to see the next movie and the animated shorts, just so that I could stay in the fascinating world that the brothers have created.
So, hey, different people like different stuff. If anyone’s reading this who hasn’t seen them yet, I suggest you go in without expectations one way or other. I think a lot of people had the problem of expected something entirely new – and wanted that sense of first wonder and discovery. But if you go in thinking “I want to see more of these worlds” or go in thinking nothing at all, I expect you’re going to be happier with what you find.
Oh, and I sort of liked the rave sequence
Deeper, more complex philosophical ideas were explored. It had a more engaging plot. (Of course, that’s not really a fair comparison since the first one had to set up everything in the second one.) Better fights. Got to see new aspects of the main characters.
I think it retroactively makes the first one better than it would be alone. The self-assuredness of the first movie is replaced with second-guessing in the second movie. You could call the first movie “Certainty”, and the second one “Doubt”. After watching the second movie, the first movie is a new experience.
Yep, I saw that suggested in another thread, and it’s the only rational explanation. It’s looking like the rabbit hole is circular shaped and without end.
Thanks.
I hadn’t heard anything before I saw it except that one of my friends liked it, and one didn’t.
My grade: D
Too much pointless fighting and painful dialogue (and monologue). I didn’t actually care about any of the characters. Each one irritated me by the end.
I enjoyed the Fraggle Rock scene, though: it looked like a good party, since I wasn’t at all convinced of the “threat” from above.
I also noted the racial, gender, and age diversity of the cast. Very refreshing.
I may enjoy it more the second time but I don’t think I could be bothered to watch it again.
Pretty much a piece of crap; C or C-, maybe even D+. Bitches:
The addition of sexuality was very unwelcome:
1)The rave/sex scene was one of the most embarrassing and pointless things I’ve seen in a major motion picture lately.
2)Matrix-view crotch-zoom? That was… distasteful. I’m not sure if it was supposed to be funny or not.
3)“I’ll take you to the keymaker if you kiss me.” It’s straight out of a sci-fi porno.
The action was mostly not so hot. I liked the weapons battle well enough, but it didn’t have much emotional background to back it up. The fight between Ngai Sing and Keanu really emphasized that Keanu can’t fight. If you’re going to have long fight scenes, have them performed by someone who looks good. I liked some of the freeway scene, but most of it was fairly rote. And the “rotating explosion” shot is just becoming a joke. Most of the gun and explosion stuff is just like watching a cartoon.
I know it makes sense, but I just can’t take the flying seriously.
All the so-called “characterization” was garbage. Love triangles? What is this?
The first movie at least had some mystery the first time around. All this movie had was a lot of talk that thought it was a whole lot smarter than it was. Oooh, we depend so much on machines, that really gets me thinking. I guess some of the ideas might’ve been interesting if I hadn’t stopped caring.
I’ll be honest, although I liked the first movie in the theater I become a bit of a playa-hata after seeing it on DVD and was seeing this one mostly because I knew curiousity would compell me eventually. Still, I tried to go in with an open mind. If there hadn’t been Chinese subs to try to read along to I would’ve probably been checking my watch even sooner. Good effects in general, but that means zero to me. SOME good action and maybe a handful of good lines are about all I can say I liked. It sucked mightily.
I thought it was tedious, with most of the emotional investment of the first conspicuously absent. The plot was fine, but the dialogue, particularly from Morpheus, was so pointless and rambling that it seriously detracted from the rest of the film.
The rave scene, in addition to being on one of the silliest-looking sets this side of a Star Wars movie, and too long by several minutes, was also hamstrung by being introduced by the ludicrous “I give you MORPHEUS!” bit and the subsequent speech.
Every fight Neo went into, there was no doubt he would win. Hell, they showed him winning the Crowd O’ Agent Smiths fight in the trailer.
The characters were terrified of the agents in the first movie. In this one, the agents (who have supposedly been upgraded since the first film’s timeframe) are much weaker than they were before, and none of the characters seem too concerned about them.
And how many characters do you need in a movie who say “I knew you were coming,” “I knew you were going to say that,” “I know what you’re about to do,” etc? Yes, the theme is “Choice.” I get it. Put down that club.
Overall, C++
And Carrie Anne Moss better look out, because Kate Beckinsale in skin-tight patent leather is looking pretty good in the trailer for “Underworld” (which otherwise looks like suck city).