Great Movie Genres Hollywood May Have Quit Investing In

[etv78]

@Max_Torque

Blaxploitation. America needs Dolemite now more than ever!

Can you dig it!

[GuanoLad]

@Evil_Captor

The big-hair big-breasts 1980s sword and sandal movies are gone.

Actually, that’s not true. People just don’t bother watching them in the same numbers they used to (but enough to cover their low budget).

[NVME702-redux]

I thought I was stumped for a genre but another thread reminded me of two genres of somewhat successful Hollywood films that are no longer produced- probably because there isn’t an audience for it now (how did this exist then, one guy had crazed fans, but the other duo? was it the comedy and the obligatory hot chick, who knows)

Elvis Presley movies- he had a long run, granted he was not an Actor, per se, but he played a character that occasionally broke out in song and saved the day! this cannot count as a musical since they didn’t communicate in song…which also brings up

Annette Funicello whatever that guys name is beach movies! There’s not really anything like that unless you count the High School Musical type movies, Disney kids blah blah blah

and last but not least…

The Road to fill in the blank- the Bob Hope and Bing Crosby series of movies with Dorothy Lamour…nothing like it since those days!

[Maserschmidt]

@Push_You_Down

Both of which are going to great lengths to HIDE the fact that they are musicals.
The trailer for Into the Woods features NO singing and there are two trailers for Annie one of which has no singing and one of which has a snippet of Hard Knock Life and that’s it.

So Hollywood is willing to make a couple of musicals but doesn’t think audiences actually WANT to see musicals.

What a nonsensical answer. It was just two years ago that Les Miserables made $150 million in the US and was nominated for Best Picture, and now you think they’ve gone into stealth mode on the marketing because they want to trick American consumers into seeing a movie in the hope that they won’t realize it’s a musical? Even though they mention Chicago in the trailer of one, and pretty much everyone alive knows Annie is a musical? Seriously?

[PSXer]

@Evil_Captor

The big-hair big-breasts 1980s sword and sandal movies are gone. Some might say they have been replaced by premium TV series like “Game of Thrones” and “Spartacus” but those series just don’t have the sense of FUN that the 1980s films did.

That said, the writing in Spartacus and particularly Game of Thrones is roughly 10,000 percent better than the writing in the 80s films, so all things considered … I’m cool.

Still waiting for “The Legend of Conan” looks like it’s stuck in development hell

The Legend of Conan | Action, Adventure, Fantasy

[Little_Nemo]

@Max_Torque

Blaxploitation. America needs Dolemite now more than ever!

I dunno. I’d say movies like Belly, In Too Deep, Never Die Alone, Waist Deep, A Day in the Life, and Lords of the Street are in the neighbourhood of the blaxpoitation genre.

[Little_Nemo]

@PSXer

Still waiting for “The Legend of Conan” looks like it’s stuck in development hell

I think it’s stuck in “the 2011 Conan remake lost sixty million dollars” hell.

[Little_Nemo]

@Ranchoth

“Subtle Political Satire”?

Well, there was Elysium just last year.

Oh wait…you said subtle political satire…never mind.

[The_Second_Stone]

Film Noir, Westerns, Kung Fu movies and Pothead movies. Last good Pothead movie was Super Troopers. Well, I’m pretty sure it and Reefer Madness were the only two good ones.

[Evil_Captor]

@Little_Nemo

I think it’s stuck in “the 2011 Conan remake lost sixty million dollars” hell.

I blame the failure of the 2011 remake on the cinematography. It was terrible! it made the movie literally difficult to watch. And the plot was episodic and weak. Plus, what the FUCK did we need with an origin story for Conan when the original did it so well? I mean … that was one fucked-up movie, and it had NOTHING to do with the Conan franchise.

If they’d just take a classic Conan story like “Red Nails” and do it up right, they’d have a fine movie. But nooooooooooo …

[The_Second_Stone]

@Evil_Captor

I blame the failure of the 2011 remake on the cinematography. It was terrible! it made the movie literally difficult to watch. And the plot was episodic and weak. Plus, what the FUCK did we need with an origin story for Conan when the original did it so well? I mean … that was one fucked-up movie, and it had NOTHING to do with the Conan franchise.

If they’d just take a classic Conan story like “Red Nails” and do it up right, they’d have a fine movie. But nooooooooooo …

Red Nails or The Elephant Tower would make great movies.

[NVME702-redux]

@The_Second_Stone

Film Noir, Westerns, Kung Fu movies and Pothead movies. Last good Pothead movie was Super Troopers. Well, I’m pretty sure it and Reefer Madness were the only two good ones.

Pineapple Express…about a pot smoker and a dealer that can ID a killer by the type of roach he left behind at a crime scene…

[Evil_Captor]

@GuanoLad

Actually, that’s not true. People just don’t bother watching them in the same numbers they used to (but enough to cover their low budget).

I’ve not seen any of these films so can’t comment knowledgeably on them. But if the 300 sequel is anything like the original, the primary erotic focus of the film will be on the guys, not the girls. Not that there’s anything wrong with that!

And the Rock version of Hercules is rated PG13 which indicates to me that the big boobs in the film are gonna be Dwayne Johnson’s (not that there’s anything wrong with that). “Legend of Hercules” and “Pompeii” are also rated PG-13. They may all be fine movies but successors to 80s Big Hair Big Boobs movies they are not. They’re just sword and sandal movies.

[Measure_for_Measure]

Here’s a list of genres and sub genres: Movie Genres | AllMovie

Sci Fi: Human Giants
Horror: Wax Museums
Thriller: Art Theft
Sports and Recreatoin: Bowling
Nature: Gardening
Oh you said great genres. Ah well: check the list for your preferences.

[Recusant]

Comedy. Or, more specifically,

@Evil_Captor

The big-hair big-breasts 1980s sword and sandal movies are gone. Some might say they have been replaced by premium TV series like “Game of Thrones” and “Spartacus” but those series just don’t have the sense of FUN that the 1980s films did.

“Fun”. Everything nowadays has to be so endlessly serious and dour, if not actually depressing. It seems to me that if you’re not geared explicitly and exclusively towards children, you’re not allowed to be any fun at all- even if you’re not making a comedy. And if you are, well… Compare Batman to The Dark Knight. Compare Transformers: The Movie to the Michael Bay Atrocity Of The Same Name. Compare anything with Lesile Neilsen in it to, well, anything else, I suppose.

I’m reminded of a play my mother once told me about, wherein two newspapermen in the 1920’s acquire a printing printing press that prints stories from the future. At one point, one of them, a lively, happy-go-lucky type, describes himself as ‘gay’, and the other guy tells him that in the future, that phrase means something different. When he explains what it means, the first asks him “what word do they have that means cheerful and happy?”, only to be told “they don’t have one, really”. Kind of sums it up, doesn’t it?

[BrotherCadfael]

@NVME702-redux

The Road to fill in the blank- the Bob Hope and Bing Crosby series of movies with Dorothy Lamour…nothing like it since those days!

*Ishtar *was pretty much a “Road to” movie.

[Push_You_Down]

@Maserschmidt

What a nonsensical answer. It was just two years ago that Les Miserables made $150 million in the US and was nominated for Best Picture, and now you think they’ve gone into stealth mode on the marketing because they want to trick American consumers into seeing a movie in the hope that they won’t realize it’s a musical? Even though they mention Chicago in the trailer of one, and pretty much everyone alive knows Annie is a musical? Seriously?

…okay, then please explain WHY there are no references to the songs OR examples of singing in the Into the Woods trailer. And do you REALLY believe anyone–let alone EVERYONE under, let’s say, the age of 25 is familiar with Annie? They only know Hard Knock Life from the Jay-Z song. Seriously.

[Evil_Captor]

@Recusant

Comedy. Or, more specifically,
“Fun”. Everything nowadays has to be so endlessly serious and dour, if not actually depressing. It seems to me that if you’re not geared explicitly and exclusively towards children, you’re not allowed to be any fun at all- even if you’re not making a comedy. And if you are, well… Compare Batman to The Dark Knight. Compare Transformers: The Movie to the Michael Bay Atrocity Of The Same Name. Compare anything with Lesile Neilsen in it to, well, anything else, I suppose.

I’m reminded of a play my mother once told me about, wherein two newspapermen in the 1920’s acquire a printing printing press that prints stories from the future. At one point, one of them, a lively, happy-go-lucky type, describes himself as ‘gay’, and the other guy tells him that in the future, that phrase means something different. When he explains what it means, the first asks him “what word do they have that means cheerful and happy?”, only to be told “they don’t have one, really”. Kind of sums it up, doesn’t it?

Hmmm, this may deserve a thread of its own …

[The_Other_Waldo_Pepper]

@Push_You_Down

So Hollywood is willing to make a couple of musicals but doesn’t think audiences actually WANT to see musicals.

In fairness, let’s not forget the single biggest movie of the last year.

“…let it go…let it GOOOOO…can’t HOLD IT BACK any MOOOOOOOORE…”

[CaptMurdock]

@Recusant

Comedy. Or, more specifically,
“Fun”. Everything nowadays has to be so endlessly serious and dour, if not actually depressing. It seems to me that if you’re not geared explicitly and exclusively towards children, you’re not allowed to be any fun at all- even if you’re not making a comedy. And if you are, well… Compare Batman to The Dark Knight. Compare Transformers: The Movie to the Michael Bay Atrocity Of The Same Name. Compare anything with Leslie Neilsen in it to, well, anything else, I suppose.

I’m reminded of a play my mother once told me about, wherein two newspapermen in the 1920’s acquire a printing printing press that prints stories from the future. At one point, one of them, a lively, happy-go-lucky type, describes himself as ‘gay’, and the other guy tells him that in the future, that phrase means something different. When he explains what it means, the first asks him “what word do they have that means cheerful and happy?”, only to be told “they don’t have one, really”. Kind of sums it up, doesn’t it?

I second that. And I nominate… Slapstick Comedy. I’m talking old-school slip-on-a-banana-peel pie-in-the-face belly-laugh stuff. Sure, Disney does that for the kiddie stuff, but when was the last time you saw a movie where there was a posh dinner party, people dressed to the nines, and a full-on pie fight breaks out, where the men and the women both get creamed…literally?