Greatest Scientists Ever: Elimination Game

Both were among the ten I was thinking of. :slight_smile:
Unfortunately I neglected to mention the Limit of One Free Vote per Customer. :stuck_out_tongue:

bordelond also gets only a single Extra Vote despite that he picked three of mine.

Five of my bonus picks remain: an Austrian, a geologist and three “influential thinkers associated with medicine or the study of humans.”

Wait – which three did I get? :smiley:

So, one out of Wegener and Hutton was NOT one of your geologists?

And hey – Schrödinger is Austrian, too :cool:

Kurt Godel is my guess for the Austrian…

The “physical scientist” description threw me off of Gödel.

Septimus, for your Austrian – how about:

Wolfgang Pauli
Ernst Mach
Christian Doppler

These are all good guesses, but not the picks I had in mind. Wegener was, though.

Warning: there is a limit of nominations 13 per player. By my count you only have one left, bordelond. (Of course you may lobby other players to nominate someone for you.)

Oops – I thought the names given to play the “game within a game” wouldn’t necessarily count as formal nominations.

Unless I’m missing someone, I’ve thrown 14 names into this thread. These 11 are scientists I feel deserve nomination for the “big game”:

Claude Shannon
Sir Alexander Fleming
Alfred Wegener
Al-Hazen
Craig Ventner
Erwin Schrödinger
Thales
Carl Jung
James Hutton
Wolfgang Pauli
Ernst Mach

These three, while very accomplished, were named strictly as guesses for the “small game”:

Andrei Sakharov
Sigmund Freud
Christian Doppler

(Fair enough, bordelond. You’re allowed five more nominations. OK?)
During Phase II I hope to reduce our list (already 122 in size, if we count the five remaining secret bonus names.) rapidly down to Thirty-six finalists.

For Phase II, each player has Nine votes total. Except that sternvogel, bordelond, and any other lucky bonus pickers each get Ten votes. Unless otherwise specified, votes are OFF votes — you’re asking the scientist to get off of Finalists’ Island. Up to two of the votes may be spent as KEEP (to cancel someone else’s OFF). You may change your votes at any time.

Mod will call Cut time at some designated hour — how does 2 pm EST sound? — but not every day. By about 11 am I will try to post whether votes are to be counted that afternoon. A minimum of 3 Off votes are needed to evict a scientist from the Island (4 Off votes if there’s a Keep vote) and more than 3 may be mandated at Mod’s discretion.

After a Cut is performed, players’ votes are considered to be still in effect for the next round, with player moving any votes for scientists now off.

Comments or questions?

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Also please discuss whether the list would be more wieldy if divided into categories.

Al-Khwarizmi, Muhammad ibn Musa - math, astronomy
Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham - physics, etc.
Archimedes - math, physics
Aristotle - philosophy, geology, biology, etc.
Arrow, Kenneth - economics
Bacon, Francis - philosophy
Bardeen, John - physics, invention
Berzelius, Jacob - chemistry
Bohr, Niels - atomic physics
Borlaug, Norman - agronomics
Boyle, Robert - chemistry, physics
Brahmagupta - math, astronomy
Bruno, Giordano - philosophy
Cannon, Annie Jump - astronomy
Copernicus, Nicolas - astronomy
Crick, Francis - Dna
Curie, Marie - radioactivity
Dalton, John - chemistry
Darwin, Charles - biology
Davy, Sir Humphrey - chemistry
Dirac, Paul - physics
Doppler, Christian - physics
Edison, Thomas Alva - invention
Einstein, Albert - physics
Eratosthenes - math, astronomy
Euclid - math
Euler, Leonhard - math
Faraday, Michael - electromagnetism, etc.
Fermat, Pierre de - math, optics
Fermi, Enrico - atomic physics
Feynman, Richard - physics
Fleming, Sir Alexander - medicine, biology
Franklin, Benjamin - physics, etc.
Franklin, Rosalind - chemistry, X-ray crystallography
Freud, Sigmund - psychology
Friedman, Milton - economics
Galen, of Pergamon - biology, medicine
Galileo - physics, astronomy, etc.
Gauss, Karl - math, astronomy
Ge Hong - philosophy, alchemy
Gell-Mann, Murray - physics
Godel, Kurt - math
Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von - natural philosophy
Goodall, Jane - primatology
Gutenberg, Johannes - invention
Haber, Fritz - chemistry; invention (fertilizer, gas warfare)
Halley, Edmond - astronomy, etc.
Hawking, Stephen - cosmology
Heisenberg, Werner - quantum theory
Hilleman, Maurice - biology, vaccination; saved more lives
Hippocrates, of Cos - medicine
Hopper, Grace - computer science
Hubble, Edwin - astronomy
Hutton, James - geologist
Huygens, Christiaan - optics, physics
Jenner, Edward - vaccination
Jung, Carl - psychology
Kepler, Johannes - astronomy, math
Keynes, John Maynard - economics
Lamarr, Hedy - invention
Lavoisier, Antoine - chemistry
Leakey, Louis - anthropology
Leavitt, Henrietta Swan - astronomy
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van - microbiology, microscopy
Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.
Leonardo da Vinci - anatomy, invention, etc.
Liebig, Justus von - organic chemistry; a great practical scientist.
Linnaeus, Carolus - botany, taxonomy
Lister, Joseph - antiseptics
Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of - computer science
Mach, Ernst - physics, cosmology
Marconi, Guglielmo - radio transmission
Maxwell, James Clerk - physics
McClintock, Barbara - genetics
Mead, Margaret - anthropology
Meitner, Lise - atomic physics
Mendel, Gregor - genetics
Mendeleev, Dmitri - chemistry
Michelson, Albert - astronomy; speed of light
Morley, Edward - astronomy, chemistry, optics, and physics.
Mullis, Kary - biology
Neumann, John von - computer science, etc.
Newton, Sir Isaac - math, physics
Nisibis, St. Jacob of - theology, founded early school
Noether, Emmy - math
Ockham, William of - philosophy
Oppenheimer, Robert - atomic physics
Pasteur, Louis - chemistry, biology
Patterson. Clair - geochemistry
Pauli, Wolfgang - quantum physics
Pauling, Linus - chemistry
Planck, Max - quantum physics
Poincare, Henri - math
Ptolemy - astronomy
Pythagoras - math
Ricardo, David - economics
Rubin, Vera - astronomy
Russell, Bertrand - math
Rutherford, Ernest - nuclear physics, atomic theory, radioactivity.
Sagan, Carl - astronomy
Sakharov, Andrei - nuclear physics
Salk, Jonas - medicine, vaccination
Samuelson, Paul - economics
Schrodinger, Erwin - wave mechanics
Shannon, Claude - computer science
Smith, Adam - economics
Smith, William - geology
Tesla, Nicolai - physics, invention
Thales, of Miletus - math
Thorne, Kip - physics
Turing, Alan - computer science, etc.
Ventner, Craig - genetics
Vesalius, Andreas - founder of anatomical sciences
Watson, James - Dna
Wegener, Alfred - meteorology, continental drift
Wigner, Eugene - physics, symmetry
Zhang Heng - astronomy, mechanics

Totally OK - thanks :slight_smile: When does Phase II start?

I see that rocketry/space flight is completely unaccounted for among the nominations. If we’re still in Phase I, let me nominate Robert Goddard
and Wernher Von Braun

Charles Babbage’s theoretical work in computing is also worth a nomination, IMHO.

I’ll leave at least one more day for Nominations. But participants are free to hurry things along, if they wish, by registering their first round Elimination Votes immediately.

How does 24 hours from now sound for the closing of nominations? With the counting of the Round 1 elimination votes 48 or 72 hours after that?

This harsh ruling operates against our best guessers. :frowning:

How about this: Anyone, including sternvogel or bordelond, gets yet another free vote for picking one of the five remaining bonus names … or two free votes for picking three or more of the bonus names.

Septimus, help me out in the small game here – from your original list of ten, is this right?

  • Two important geologists: Alfred Wegener and <still unguessed>
  • Two important quantum physicists: Max Plank and <who? Schrodinger?>
  • Two physical scientists, one Russian, one Austrian: Dmitri Mendeleev and <unguessed Austrian>
  • Four very influential thinkers associated with medicine or the study of humans: One of Fleming, Freud, Jung, or Ventner plus <still unguessed>, <still unguessed>, and <still unguessed>.

Is Louis Agassiz the other geologist you’re thinking of, septimus?

That’s correct. Louis Agassiz is NOT the other geologist. I picked Freud not for any personal preference but since he is a celebrity thinker I thought others might have overlooked.

ETA: The three influential thinkers associated with medicine or the study of humans may all be somewhat obscure.

Tyson, Neil deGrasse - astrophysics, science popularizer

I only have two nominations left … but I’ll offer up two fields that are underrepresented

  • Paleontology is missing altogether. There are big names, but not necessarily household names.
  • A slew of 18th- and 19th-century scientists who advanced the practical use of electricity. Davy and Faraday are on the list, at least.

With all the other astronomers nominated, we should not overlook

Hipparchus, of Nicaea - astronomy, etc.

I am wondering if one or more of these thinkers are associated with Eastern medicine.

They were born in France, Germany and Poland.

On the circulatory system we could go with William Harvey or, if you prefer, Ibn al-Nafis.

Mary Anning? I know there are two men (whose names I have forgotten) who were competing to discover the most new dinosaur fossils at the end of the 19th century but Anning did some stellar work from a very young age and is a personal fave.

ETA: What about Ignaz Semmelweis? Massively important and persisted in the face of fierce resistance.

Please submit your final nominations soon. I intend to close nominations in 2 or 3 hours, and Elimination Voting will begin.

(I may accept a tiny number of nominations after the deadline, but only for great scientists clearly overlooked, who would be strong candidates for the Finalist List.)

Ack! Only two nominations … and four names to narrow down.

<deep breath>

OK, I’ll throw in:

Othneil Marsh (paleontologist) – he did have a main adversary at the time, but that other paleontologist is more noted for finding lots of species rather than advancing scientific thought. Marsh – besides being a prodigious fossil collector himself – was the first to draw the evolutionary line between dinosaurs and modern birds, helping to refine Darwin’s theories.

Alessandro Volta (physicist) – laid the ground work for the widespread use of electricity in modern life. Invented the voltaic pile battery and proved that electricity could be generated chemically. Volta’s work also disproved that electricity was an artifact of living things – a popular theory at the time.