Robert Koch has to be the German medical researcher, right? Remember, it’s your nomination I am attempting to guess … not using up one of my nominations (which are gone anyhow 
).
For Poland – Albert Sabin? For our exercise, it would hard to prop Sabin up over Jonas Salk, though both men were obviously very important in the real world.
My final nominations. The first three may merit special attention.
Bernard, Claude - physiology
Boas, Franz - anthropology
Virchow, Rudolf - medicine, cell doctrine, etc.
Boltzmann, Ludwig - thermodynamics
Lyell, Charles - geology
Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad - natural philosophy
Hamilton, William - astronomy, optics, math
Phase I is over. We have 136 nominations altogether.
Names submitted from now on are no longer nominations. They are the opposite: Votes to Evict a scientist from Greatest Scientists Island. For example, if you post
You are voting that these do not belong. (We have two Franklins and two Smiths, so don’t be ambiguous!)
You may change your votes any time up until the deadline, tentatively set for Friday, 2 pm EST. If one or two of your favorites are in danger of being evicted, you may change your OFF vote(s) to KEEP votes.
Here is the official list of 136 nominees for Greatest Scientists:
Agassiz, Louis - biology, geology
Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad - natural philosophy
Al-Khwarizmi, Muhammad ibn Musa - math, astronomy
Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham - physics, etc.
Anning, Mary - paleontology
Archimedes - math, physics
Aristotle - philosophy, geology, biology, etc.
Arrow, Kenneth - economics
Babbage, Charles - computer science
Bacon, Francis - philosophy
Bardeen, John - physics, invention
Bernard, Claude - physiology
Berzelius, Jacob - chemistry
Boas, Franz - anthropology
Bohr, Niels - atomic physics
Boltzmann, Ludwig - thermodynamics
Borlaug, Norman - agronomics
Boyle, Robert - chemistry, physics
Brahmagupta - math, astronomy
Braun, Wernher von - rocket science
Bruno, Giordano - philosophy
Cannon, Annie Jump - astronomy
Copernicus, Nicolas - astronomy
Crick, Francis - Dna
Curie, Marie - radioactivity
Dalton, John - chemistry
Darwin, Charles - biology
Davy, Sir Humphrey - chemistry
Dirac, Paul - physics
Doppler, Christian - physics
Edison, Thomas Alva - invention
Einstein, Albert - physics
Eratosthenes - math, astronomy
Euclid - math
Euler, Leonhard - math
Faraday, Michael - electromagnetism, etc.
Fermat, Pierre de - math, optics
Fermi, Enrico - atomic physics
Feynman, Richard - physics
Fleming, Sir Alexander - medicine, biology
Franklin, Benjamin - physics, etc.
Franklin, Rosalind - chemistry, X-ray crystallography
Freud, Sigmund - psychology
Friedman, Milton - economics
Galen, of Pergamon - biology, medicine
Galileo - physics, astronomy, etc.
Gauss, Karl - math, astronomy
Ge Hong - philosophy, alchemy
Gell-Mann, Murray - physics
Goddard, Robert - rocket science
Godel, Kurt - math
Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von - natural philosophy
Goodall, Jane - primatology
Gutenberg, Johannes - invention
Haber, Fritz - chemistry; invention (fertilizer, gas warfare)
Halley, Edmond - astronomy, etc.
Hamilton, William - astronomy, optics, math
Harvey, William - anatomy, blood
Hawking, Stephen - cosmology
Heisenberg, Werner - quantum theory
Hilleman, Maurice - biology, vaccination; saved more lives
Hipparchus, of Nicaea - astronomy, etc.
Hippocrates, of Cos - medicine
Hopper, Grace - computer science
Hubble, Edwin - astronomy
Hutton, James - geologist
Huygens, Christiaan - optics, physics
Ibn al-Nafis - anatomy, blood
Jenner, Edward - vaccination
Jung, Carl - psychology
Kepler, Johannes - astronomy, math
Keynes, John Maynard - economics
Lamarr, Hedy - invention
Lavoisier, Antoine - chemistry
Leakey, Louis - anthropology
Leavitt, Henrietta Swan - astronomy
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van - microbiology, microscopy
Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.
Leonardo da Vinci - anatomy, invention, etc.
Liebig, Justus von - organic chemistry; a great practical scientist.
Linnaeus, Carolus - botany, taxonomy
Lister, Joseph - antiseptics
Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of - computer science
Lyell, Charles - geology
Mach, Ernst - physics, cosmology
Marconi, Guglielmo - radio transmission
Marsh, Othneil = paleontology
Maxwell, James Clerk - physics
McClintock, Barbara - genetics
Mead, Margaret - anthropology
Meitner, Lise - atomic physics
Mendel, Gregor - genetics
Mendeleev, Dmitri - chemistry
Michelson, Albert - astronomy; speed of light
Morley, Edward - astronomy, chemistry, optics, and physics.
Mullis, Kary - biology
Neumann, John von - computer science, etc.
Newton, Sir Isaac - math, physics
Nisibis, St. Jacob of - theology, founded early school
Noether, Emmy - math
Ockham, William of - philosophy
Oppenheimer, Robert - atomic physics
Pasteur, Louis - chemistry, biology
Patterson. Clair - geochemistry
Pauli, Wolfgang - quantum physics
Pauling, Linus - chemistry
Planck, Max - quantum physics
Poincare, Henri - math
Ptolemy - astronomy
Pythagoras - math
Ricardo, David - economics
Rubin, Vera - astronomy
Russell, Bertrand - math
Rutherford, Ernest - nuclear physics, atomic theory, radioactivity.
Sagan, Carl - astronomy
Sakharov, Andrei - nuclear physics
Salk, Jonas - medicine, vaccination
Samuelson, Paul - economics
Schrodinger, Erwin - wave mechanics
Semmelweis, Ignaz - antiseptics
Shannon, Claude - computer science
Smith, Adam - economics
Smith, William - geology
Tesla, Nicolai - physics, invention
Thales, of Miletus - math
Thorne, Kip - physics
Turing, Alan - computer science, etc.
Tyson, Neil deGrasse - astrophysics, science popularizer
Ventner, Craig - genetics
Vesalius, Andreas - founder of anatomical sciences
Virchow, Rudolf - medicine, cell doctrine, etc.
Volta, Alessandro - chemistry, physics
Watson, James - Dna
Wegener, Alfred - meteorology, continental drift
Wigner, Eugene - physics, symmetry
Zhang Heng - astronomy, mechanics
Happy Eliminations!
How many elimination votes do we get?
OK, OK … who were the unguessed individuals in the small game? 
Never mind … didn’t realize post #82 answered my question.
Nine. (Except for the two lucky bonus winners who each get ten.) Up to two of your votes can be used as Keep instead of Off/Evict. (Your Keep will cancel another player’s Evict for the same scientist. I don’t expect any Keep votes until soon before deadline when a favorite is in danger.)
You needn’t post all nine votes at once. Post four now, three later, … whatever. If you end up with ten or more votes and no explanation, I’ll go by your nine most recent voted names.
(One ambiguity is whether you can cast multiple votes for a single scientist — one you want to eliminate quickly. If there’s no objection I think I’ll allow one double votes but it will cost a vote. IOW, you can cast nine single off votes … or six single off votes and one double vote )off or keep).)
ETA: After the first elimination deadline (probably two days from now) your votes (for continuing contenders) will be considered valid for the next round until you explicitly cancel them.
[ul]
[li]Carl Sagan[/li][li]Thomas Edison[/li][li]Benjamin Franklin[/li][li]Milton Friedman[/li][li]Karl Jung[/li][li]Hedy Lamarr[/li][li]Neil deGrasse Tyson[/li][li]Craig Ventner[/li][li]St. Jacob of Nisibis[/li][/ul]
Eliminations:
Braun, Wernher von
Freud, Sigmund
Hawking, Stephen
Keynes, John Maynard
Lamarr, Hedy
Ockham, William of
Sagan, Carl
Smith, Adam
Tyson, Neil deGrasse
EVICT:
**Edison, Thomas Alva
Gutenberg, Johannes
Lister, Joseph
Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of
Nisibis, St. Jacob of
Sagan, Carl
Tyson, Neil deGrasse **
KEEP:
Franklin, Benjamin - the man was insanely scientific. In addition to all his various inventions and work on electricity he mapped the freaking Gulf stream, did experiments on the effects of oil on water, promoted stair climbing as a form of beneficial exercise (in the 1750s!) and a bazillion other things.
One more tbc
Elimination votes:
Aristotle – Aside only from Plato, he probably did more to impede the progress of science than anyone else in history.
Freud, Sigmund – Drug-induced bullshitting is not the same thing as science.
Friedman, Milton – There are only trace amounts of science to be found in the field of economics, and Friedman didn’t contribute any of those traces.
Ge Hong – …I’m not really sure why he’s on this list to begin with. What did he do?
Nisibis, St. Jacob of – Theology is not a science. Maybe there was some good science later done at his school, but it wasn’t done by him.
I’d like to get rid of all of the economists, but I’ll leave that for later, since I only have two elimination votes left (I want to hold onto my two save votes in case they’re needed).
Sagan, Carl
Edison, Thomas
Friedman, Milton
Jung, Karl
Lamarr, Hedy
Tyson, Neil deGrasse
St. Jacob of Nisibis
Freud, Sigmund
Aristotle
Keep
Ben Franklin
I have 1 keep left. I’ll use it later.
*I’m not allowed to vote but I do get to comment. It’s exciting to watch the horse-race. Freud-Jung was 1-1 out of the stalls, but votes on Freud quickly piled up. The Popularizers Sagan and Tyson are quickly booed, as is … Milton Friedman :eek: highly respected prize-winning economist. You guys don’t want to keep him around as a bargaining chip?
But Hedy Lamarr? 
Why the urge to evict a woman — there’s only 15 on the list if my count is correct. I wonder if some quasi-misogyny is at work here; not only did Ms. Lamarr invent spread spectrum radio, but she was called “the world’s most beautiful woman.”*
But something strikes me as I consider the inclusion of Ms. Lamarr. Oliver Heaviside was a far more important radio engineer, and he’s not even on the List.
What do Players think of this proposed ruling? :— If there’s a consensus among Lamarr Evictors that Mr. Heaviside should be added to the List in her stead, then, in the absence of dissent, I may do so. Would such a ruling improve the game or destroy the whole idea? 
Ge Hong was Quartz’s nomination. If we don’t get a defense from Mr. Quartz you can save your Ge Hong vote — I’ll do a Mod-kill.
Ah, right, I missed Hedy Lamarr in my skim-through. Not to deny that she made scientific contributions, but she’s mostly “that actress who happened to do a little science”, not “that scientist who happened to do a little acting”.
I think I’ll wait until Round 2 to vote against her, though, since all of my Round 1 picks, to my view, did no science at all, and a little is more than none. But if we want to replace her with Heaviside, I’d be OK with that, too.
Accusation of misogyny and then bringing up her looks? Humph.
I must have skipped over Freud in my reading of the list. If you can add him to my list and drop Craig Ventner that’d be great.
Eliminations:
Anning, Mary
Arrow, Kenneth
Bruno, Giordano
Hamilton, William
Nisibis, St. Jacob of
Noether, Emmy
Patterson, Clair
Ricardo, David
Wigner, Eugene
Since I have one “bonus” vote left, I’ll save it for a “keep” if necessary.
Science stands on its own merits. The sex of the scientist is not relevant.
Speaking of which, Ge Hong is slight in comparison and does not deserve to stand with the others.
And here’s my own kill list:
1 Cannon - who?
2 Freud - largely discredited
3 Harvey - who?
4 Hilleman - who?
5 Meitner - wrote THAT letter, but not in the same class as the others.
6 Morley - the lesser of the pair
7 Ricardo - who?
8 Thorne - who?
9 Tyson - an educator yes, but not in the same class as a discoverer as the others
A Wigner - too many of that era included.
Please don’t add Oliver Heaviside, we’ve started and it is wrong to make additions now especially as it was hardly a glaring oversight. Hedy just doesn’t really belong and that will be taken care of in the first round it appears.
Fair enough.
Are you OK with Mod Killing Ge Hong since even Quartz doesn’t defend him?
OK, now that he’s gotten an eliminate vote, I’ll spend one of my two keep votes:
Keep Kip Thorne
Best as I can determine, he’s the most brilliant physicist currently alive. He’ll eventually get voted out in favor of some who are now dead, but he should make it past the first few rounds.
Thank you for invitation Septimus,
RL complications prevented involvement in the nomination process, no matter
OK, let’s start with the economists and other non-scientists 
Eliminations:
Arrow, Kenneth
Friedman, Milton
Ge Hong
Goodall, Jane
St. Jacob of Nisibis,
William of Ockham
Ricardo, David
Samuelson, Paul
Smith, Adam