Grenfell Tower fire (London)

Is that an actual figure? I don’t know how many panels were used but [we do know what the cost difference was:

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That would be the Tories who mandated gas inspections in 1994?

That would be the Tories who in 1987 and Jan 1997 mandated electrical safety inspections?

That would be the Tories who enhanced the fire and safety regulations for furniture in 1987, 1988, and 1997?

Be careful before you apportion blame.

Do you have any cites that are from *this *century’s Tories?

…cherry-picking a few random things that happened over 20 years ago isn’t going to waive away the last few years of austerity.

Nope, it would be the Tories of this millennium.

Kicked off earlier than planned at K & C town hall, thankfully it’s locked up.

It’s going to be a very long, very angry weekend. Who the hell can you direct this amount of anger towards …

Well, they’re inside. I hope they properly occupy it.

Lily Allen in the house :smiley:

30 minutes ago:

I do hope that they can keep their passion in check and that there isn’t any violence to either people or property. Such would be counter-productive and delay the very redress they seek.

I wasn’t cherrypicking. I was working from a list of legal requirements. There’s one such here.

It’s not passion, it’s anger fast becoming rage.

At this rate, very soon it won’t matter what’s productive and what isn’t.
So many voices now across all channels:

Unfortunately, the SWP seem all over this. Seems there’s no cause they won’t hijack, the twats.

Oh ** Quartz! **

I am so disappointed in you, personally I like you as a person, but you are so disingenuous here.

Whilst I will await the enquiry, you of all people know and understand how European directives operate - you know that all these safety measures were contained in EU directives that every EU government had to incorporate into local legislation, and you of all people understand that this is at the very root of the Brexit vote

Enlighten me. While I am aware of the UK legislation, I am ignorant of the relevant EU directives - at least ones that far back. My agents have never referenced EU legislation.

…you selectively only chose legal requirements that the Tories introduced over 20 years ago, and ignored any legal requirements that the Tories may have weakened, or removed? Thats cherrypicking.

Is there a listing of towers in London with suspected claddings such as this? I’m thinking of going back to London in the next year or so, and towers much like these are on my short list of things to take pictures of, so if I could work my vacation around any sudden becondomenting of said towers it would be great along with of sure making sure they were up to code.

Does anyone know how many units were in the building?

120 flats.

Thanks.

I’m hoping that many of the survivors had other people they could stay with, and not have to live in a hotel for who knows how long.

Just got an email from my mother, who lives in Australia but grew up in England.

Her sister, aged in her late 60s, who is largely estranged from the family and has had mental health problems, was apparently living in the tower recently, possibly with her adult daughter, and we haven’t been able to find out if they were still living there last week.

The last address that my mum had for her was a flat in Grenfell Tower, and that was in January or February of this year. Mum called some friends in England, and they gave her the number for a phone line that’s been set up for relatives of the residents. She now has a file number, and is listed as next of kin, but hasn’t heard anything back yet.