Well, except for the part about Ronan trying to kill them/already having killed their families/wiping out entire planets/being allied with Thanos who also wipes out entire planets…
I got the impression that while they had individual problems with aspects of being imprisoned, they (at least, Rocket and Groot) were self-aware of their own criminality and so knew how the game was played (Rocket, especially, seems to treat the escape as a game), so wouldn’t blame Nova Corps as a whole, or view them as evil.
IOW, the Guardians may view themselves as heroes (like Jayne Cobb’s own internal dialogue does, too), but they also know they’re not “good guys”, and Nova Corps are.
Except that for the most part, each of them is already pre-disposed to hating Ronan more. Gamora always hated him and had been planning to betray him; Drax wants to kill him; Quill is upset about how Ronan cost him the ability to sell the orb. (Rocket and Groot, maybe not so much, admittedly.)
Yeah, probably none of them are particularly fond of Xandar… but Ronan wants to destroy the entire planet. You’d have to be 100% a dick to approve of that.
No, you don’t understand. They really wanted that stuff. In fact, they wanted it much more than the person who originally owned it did. Surely that isn’t stealing?
Plus, if we have to start a Kickstarter campaign to do it we need to get George Lucas a ticket to this movie. He needs to see the movie he should have made, and a CGI character who the audience cares about. That racoon brought tears to my eyes more than once.
To date, GotG is the 6th highest grossing film of the year at $204.5M according to Box Office Mojo. It’s been out for 2 weeks. By the end of the year, I think this is the top grossing movie of the year.
Eh, I’d like to see performance data from the first two weeks compared to subsequent weeks. My guess is that there are precipitous drop-offs. And remember, you still have Hunger Games yet to be released. Interesting, though, is that Marvel has 4 of the top 7 grossing films (to date). Disney is sure doing things right.
Saw it last night, also IMAX, 3D. I had the sense to get up and move back a few seats after the previews because there’s a lot happening out at the peripheral vision. It really is impressively high definition. For the folks who are wondering about staying power – at 6:15 on a Friday evening, the theater only had a handful of people in it. But the whole cinema looked deserted, so I’m guessing going out to the movies isn’t the thing it was twenty years ago before HD TVs and streaming.
Good movie – things roll right along in your basic Star Wars, heros get swept along in events sort of way. The character of Gamora seemed under-used and maybe a bit soft for a cybernetic assassin brought up by (essentially) Ming the Merciless. The raccoon, on the other hand, was pretty brilliant. Especially when he turns out to be the brains of the group.
My one real complaint with the movie is that the characters have way too plot armor from physics. Whether they’re in an exploding art museum or a crashing spaceship (or in front of a crashing spaceship), it seems as though they only have to duck behind a counter or dive out of the way and it’s all good. I wish movie makers would understand that when a billion ton spaceship falls out of the sky, it doesn’t matter how many seat belts you’re wearing, you’re not going to be crawling out of the wreckage with a couple of scratches – you’re going to be sublimating from the wreckage as a motley assortment of molecules and vapors. (I think Pitch Black was about the only movie I’ve seen that made a spaceship crash look even halfway convincing.)
Some small defense, none of the characters are baseline humans. You have the genetically enhanced cyborg raccoon, the heavily modified cyborg assassin, Drax, the half-human half-unspecified guy, and Groot. And Groot comes off the worse for the spaceship crash.
I mean, yes, it’s a bullshit explanation (or if you want the preferred terminology: a handwave), but we know nothing significant about how tough these folks should be expected to be. In any case, this is the same universe where a mostly baseline human can use rocket packs to plow himself face-first into a concrete wall with no ill effects (Iron Man).
My $300MM worldwide prediction from the other thread sure looks weak. Domestically it’s less than $10MM behind the current 2014 champ: Captain America: The Winter Soldier. My guess is only Mockingjay Part 1 will compete with it inside the US. Weirdly, it’s playing as well outside the US as inside. $251MM US $237MM Foreign. That’s well unlike the others in the top 10 where 2/3 or more of the take is international.
Maybe it doesn’t translate well? Still, it’ll break $500MM next week overall. I welcome the sequel.
And wow, is Sin City 2 tanking. $6.4MM on nearly 3000 screens?
Saw it Friday night. Enjoyed it. There were issues, but it was enjoyable and fun.
Vin Diesel did an interview, and said he took the script home and asked his kids which character he should be, and they picked Groot, the tree guy. So there. He might have been Drax.
That’s when he was given the assignment to pick up Quill and take him to his father.
He was convenient, and the ravagers wanted to try Terran, but Yondu decided to raise him instead?
I would assume no. I would assume she meant it as a birthday gift to go with the previous tape, i.e. more cool music that showed their connection. He just didn’t want to open the present for some reason after her death.
I have to agree. For some reason, Ronan just didn’t seem that intimidating to me. Maybe it was the tone of the movie as a whole, but he was bland, even for a religious revenge-fueled nutbag.
So even after I saw her name in the opening credits, I didn’t recognize her. I was (a) trying to figure out who she played, and (b) wondering who the actress playing Nebula was. :smack:
I agree. Sure, blowing up the chamber from the inside surely helped bring down his defenses, but he was set up to be awesome, and completely secure. Surrounded by the worst hive of villainy and scum this side of Tatooine doesn’t make me think safe.
Also, nitpick, keeping living creatures in boxes just barely bigger than they are is not a good way to keep prisoners. I mean, just dealing with the poop and pee is going to be an issue. Not that this is the only violator of that principle. (Continuum is guilty as well.)
We weren’t told.
Well, he is a religious nutbag bent on domination. I mean, he’s got Xandar, then Kree (because they betrayed the cause), then Thanos, then, hey, why not take over the galaxy?
I was put off by that, too. Xandar is supposed to be the righteous planet, yet they run the hellhole that is Kyln. Sure, the people put in Kyln are the worst of the worst, they still seemed pretty shitty about it.
That was ultimately why I decided they weren’t standing trial and were shuffled directly to prison. They were previously convicted criminals.
Nebula is a cyborg. Ronan had goopy stuff smeared on his face as part of his ritual preparation. Two very different things. It wasn’t just paint, it was some sort of presumably ancient concoction of herbs and spices in a slime of holy goodness.
Based on that, Quill was an innocent victim, first from robbery, and second for attempted abduction. Why was he sent to prison?
My take on the “Guardians of the Galaxy” label is that it was used ironically to belittle the team by Ronan, something along the lines of “look at your ‘guardians of the galaxy’!” (as in ‘what a bunch of losers’).
After that, the team turns it around on him when they have ahold of the infinity stone and Ronan asks something like ‘WTF are you?!’ And Starlord replies ‘you said it yourself - we are the guardians of the galaxy!’
This was foreshadowed by an earlier quip - Starlord says something like ‘I care about the galaxy because I’m one of the guys living in it’.
In short, there was never any real notion that the entire galaxy was under threat.
The Kyln is also where the worst of Nova Corps end up. It was a guard telling the prisoners to kill Gamora in the showers so the clean up would be easier.
I don’t think that the Collector’s, er, collectibles were kept like animals in a zoo. I think they were all put in some form of suspended animation, so as to better preserve them.
The tape. No tape lasts that long, nor do tape players. So, we have one of two possibilities:
Science could duplicate the tapes.
but if so:
why did he stress so much about going back for the tape?
