Guess what? We don't give a fuck that you are from NYC...

Holy shit, I was gonna mention that same HD! I live right across the street on E 58th. You in my nabe?

Uncle Sam’s Umbrellas on 57th street (near Carnegie Hall) closed a few years ago. :frowning:

To the O.P. and others: I’m laughing over the misrepresentations of my city, and the collective sneers of those who live in the midwest or Southern US about NYC’s sense of superiority – as if “the heartland” isn’t constantly lauded as real!America where the real!Americans live.

I grant that we’re overrepresented on TV shows, and there’s a certain smugness to the way some NYCers laud their street cred. We’re territorial creatures, necessarily due to our close quarters, and it probably makes us seem like we’re on the offense when in fact we’re trying to play defense.

Sadly, this is how Americans are viewed by other nationalities. It’s All About America, we allegedly believe. And for too many of us, it’s true. But tarring all Americans with the “exclusionist” or “superior” or “bullying” or “insular” labels is just as wrong as it is to tar all NYCers with the same epithets.

Now let’s talk 9/11.

For those of you who don’t think the opinion of Metro NYers on 9/11 is pertinent, I’ve got a little suggestion for you. Right from where you’re sitting, imagine a place that’s less five miles away from you. Now in one fell swoop, murder 2,700+ people, destroy your town’s two biggest buildings, plus make a disaster area out of the entire center of its financial community. Oh yeah, don’t forget to include 300 of your local police and fire rescue crews among the dead. You’ll have to ensure that the dead and injured and survivors – many more thousands of course – represent not just that spot five miles away, but your entire city and its neighboring communities. Be sure to have your TV and news outlets replay this entire event over. and over. and over. so you get to relive the horror for years to come. Best of all, have the government withhold millions it promised in aid, and lie about toxins in your neighborhood so that people will think it’s safe to go back to work even though the EPA knew damn well their lungs are being poisoned. And do make sure that that self-same government mentions your tragic event every time it wants some votes or permission to do away with some more civil rights.

Do that and fucking tell me you don’t have a unique, relevant perspective on this devastating event that shattered your community, as well as strong pertinent opinions on the “war on terror” that has been drummed up as an excuse to fight said events from happening again.

I can’t comprehend the aptly named NoClueBoy seriously trying to compare the aid given to the survivors/families of the ~200 Oklahoma City bombing victims and the funding necessary to repair the entire downtown Manhattan area as well as restore the survivors’ lives and livelihoods. Are you insane?

Finally: I’ve no doubt there are brave Arlingtonian firefighters and police crews who saved lives on 9/11. Why aren’t they feted and held up? I dunno. They certainly should be. Still, it probably has to do with how many died that day. How many was it? 25? 50? 100? 200? No. And it wasn’t 300, presumably because they didn’t have to enter two deadly buildings to save people only to have them crumble into countless shards around them.

Christ. The funny thing is, I’m nauseated by the lionizing of the NYPD/NYFD as well. But when I think about what they suffered and risked and sacrificed, I gotta say “let 'em be lionized.” They’ve earned it, and God knows they’re not being paid equivalent to their tasks.

Flay’s signature restaurants, Bolo and Mesa Grill, are in NYC. He’s opened a second Mesa Grill in Las Vegas.

Stinkpalm, let me apologize on behalf of all NYers for identifying with our city and being proud of our shared experiences. I understand now - every other policeman / policewoman in the world would have just said I’m a cop, while this jerkoff said I’m an NYPD cop. The shame and the horror. From now on, when someone asks me where I am from, I will hang my head in shame and mutter my home under my breath - hell, maybe I’ll even lie and say I’m from Canada like Aanamika. Maybe I should visit the embassy and see what it would take to emigrate to Albany.

Aargh!!! You are a New Yorker, there is no NYFD, it is the FDNY.

Sorry, please resume the normally scheduled pitting.

Few Dork Nire Yepartment? Sorry, I see some serious problems with that acronym.

You’re right, you’re right – sorry, it felt wrong when I wrote it but was still too pissed off to bother figuring out what I’d done. (In conversation we still call it the New York Fire Department, though – no one ever says “the fire department of New York.”) :slight_smile:

It’s okay, I have no idea why this is bugging me. I think it might be because it is raining and I wore my FDNYPD hat in today.

Oh, that and the weird attack by the Op on NYC.

First off, you do too care that I’m from NYC. You care enough to hate me and deep in your heart fear me.

Thank the Gods that common Americans feel free to hate New Yorkers openly. That is the way it is supposed to be.

I moved to NYC. I’ve lived here for over a decade. I pay outrageous rent, ride smelly subways and have to worry that stepping on a manhole cover may kill me. When I tell people that I’m from New York, I want them to fear and loathe me! Women should clutch thier purses closer. Men get between me and their women. Children shrink behind skirts.

I AM NEW YORK!
BEAUTIFUL AND TERRIBLE
ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DISPAIR!
it is lot better than the pity. Nobody who lives in NY wants to be pittied.
So FUCK YOU ASSHOLES. I’m from NEW YORK.

Not just New York, but Brooklyn, which is New York with even more Attitude. :wink:

My city can kick your city’s ass.

You really don’t get it!
Cop = donut expert is the quintessential anti-cop stereotype.
He wasn’t just a cop, or just a NYPD cop, he was a NYPD detective, the ultimate stereotype of the “sitting at a desk eating donuts all day never really actually doing any real police type work”!
Think they could have gotten one of those “black jack-boot, Smokey The Bear drill instructor hat, mirror sunglasses, I don’t need a stick up my ass to stand this straight” types to play along with the donut joke?
(Of course he could have been playin’ the “I’m soo bad ass, I’ll make the donut joke and bust a cap in your ass for the punchline cop” but my cable kept going out last night so I didn’t get to see the whole thing :frowning: )

CMC fnord!

You know, I expected a lot more west coast invective and diatribe. (I’d hear it all the time from a sister who moved west and whined incessantly about all the supposed ‘east coast’ attitude.) Passive/aggressive or not, I know its there.

I get more irritated with all the Southern arrogance. Now I like lots of individual Southerners - really, I do! (hi swampy) - but this commonly perceived thought that Southerners are nicer is not true. It’s true only under certain parameters - one of them being are you white?- and I can tell you from experience.

Well, the FDNY/NYPD/Port Authority lost a LOT of Firefighters/Officers on 9/11, so I get the almost obnoxious deference to their plight, but for the love of all that’s Holy, I’m sick to death of the arrogance. New York City is just another city in a world full of greater ones.

London, for instance, has been on the same ground since the Romans, had it’s tits bombed off in the 40’s, rebuilt itself, and is one of the greatest cities on the planet.

As for Bobby Flay, he just has that permanent smirk look that makes you want to punch him square in his pasty kisser.

And Zebra, I’m from Chicago. The South Side. We don’t fear people from New York City, we fear becoming like people from New York City.

As for the Pizza and the Hot Dogs.

I’ve had Grays Papaya. Meh. I’ll take Superdawg anyday. (no ketchup either, pal)

I’ll take a Gino’s East deep over whatever Ray is calling pizza these days. (and the one on 8th, not the imitations).

Chicago isn’t the center of the universe, it’s not even the greatest city in the world, but I’ll tell you this much, Chicago is damn sure world class, it’s people are some of the strongest, heartiest, down-to-earth people anywhere, and we’re proud, you bet, but arrogant?

Nah. Our city speaks for itself, we’ve got too much work to do building the rest of the country.

Or, at times, even on their license plates.

You can say whatever the fuck you want to when someone asks you where you are from.

But don’t tell us if we don’t ask because we don’t care.

If someone asks you what you do for a living say “I’m a busboy” not “I’m a busboy in NEW YORK CITY”. We just don’t give a fuck and it doesn’t impress anyone outside of NEW YORK CITY.

Ooh! I think I struck a blue bonnet nerve…I think the oil thing is gone, no? And it’s not horses you ride to work-it’s gas guzzling SUVs, since we all know that things are “jes’ bigger 'n Texas!” :rolleyes:
honestly, my point was that the whole Sam Houston/Alamo/Texas Pride stuff comes up every time I talk to a Texan(admittedly this is about twice a year). They like to say colorful, meaningless things like, “you can take the boy outta Texas, but you can’t take Texas outta the boy.” Who wants to take the boy anywhere? Stay there, please!
This is stuff to brag about? I hear there are some good art museums in Texas… :stuck_out_tongue:

Mika -there’s Southern arrogance and then there’s Southern arrogance + Texas “pride”. The two together are horrid. All it is is regional snobbery run rampant and indulged. For some reason, it makes Southern folks feel better if they can say that Yankees are rude and rushed.

And, to be fair, it makes Northerners feel superior to say that at least they have a pulse and don’t take days to complete sentences. It’s harmless, until you’re treated badly in either region-then it can get ugly and so can the stereotypes. I will never like Texas-it gave us George Bush. Tom DeLay and a number of other embarassing things. That is not to say I don’t or won’t like individual Texans. <shrugs> Austin is pretty.

(I’m not saying that Missourans don’t get obnoxious with the whole “show me” thing, but we were bitching about NYCers and Texans. If you care to start a thread about how arrogant Illinois residents are, feel free…)

Look, people from all over the place talk about New York City, so why shouldn’t we New Yorkers talk about it? It’s not as if the First Rule of New York City is You Do Not Talk About New York City.

I was watching NBC Nightly News the other week and they did a story about something in NYC (can’t remember what it was about) and after the segment Brian Williams sez “As goes NYC, so goes the Nation”

WTF?? I can’t remember any recent events, trends, legislation, etc. coming out of NYC that the rest of the county thought it must emulate. Just an inflated opinion of themselves IMHO.

LL

Exactly what I was saying.

No, someone might say “I’m a busboy for La Bernadin”, stating his employer. This officer’s employer is the NYPD. If you wish to read arrogance into every mention, that’s your issue, not ours.