"Guess Who" double standard?

I don’t know what is wrong with people. I am talking about the movie, Guess Who. I actually haven’t seen the movie but just from the trailers I can see that the whole movie will be one big ball of stereotyping and bigotry.

Just from one of the parts of the trailer I can tell the tone of the whole movie. The part where Ashton is in the house with his girlfriend’s family, a black woman walks in, sees Ashton and exclaims that they must be getting audited. Can you imagine if the tables had been turned? Imagine it was a white family with a black boyfriend and someone saw him and exclaimed that they must be getting robbed.

I haven’t heard one peep out of anyone on this and it makes me wonder if it is because people either don’t notice or don’t care. Is there a double standard when it comes to generalizations?

The black version’s already been done in Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?.

That could be a big part of it.

I understand that people were more tolerent of racism in the past but that doesn’t make it correct to do the same thing now (or then for that matter).

I did. Everyone turned into ice cream. Is that what was supposed to happen?

Maybe everyone else has actually seen the movie.

I haven’t seen many trailers for Guess Who? so I’m not going to comment (the mere fact that it contains Ashton Kutcher is enough to make me content to wait until it comes out on STARZ!, and then only if there’s no Cosby Show reruns on).

I would like to point out, though, that Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner? was not a comedy, did not employ racist stereotypes, and contained actors who had talent. From IMDB:

One of my favorite movies. Please don’t compare Ashton Kutcher to Sidney Poitier. It’s like comparing really stupid apples to oranges.

Yes it was. Tracy and Hepburn together in a [sotto voce] SERIOUS DRAMA [/sotto voce] ?

It did have a serious point–to challenge the prevalent racism of the day–but to claim it was not a comedy is silly. (Look at the first category that IMDb places it in.)

Similarly, the current movie is probably an attempt to just turn the roles inside out, perhaps even demonstrating that blacks have achieved sufficient success to face their own prejudices. Now, I don’t know that it will work with the broad comedy for which Bernie Mac is known and the movie may be played strictly for laughs (successfully or unsuccessfully), but the first one clearly was comedy and I doubt that the remake is really all that racist as opposed to just broadly satirical.

I don’t think you’re intending to dismiss the importance of Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?, Tom, but your post could be read that way. It was nominated for 10 Oscars, and I think it’s safe to say the current version is unlikely to garner even faint attention from the Academy.

And I’m with Marlitharn. Comparing Ashton Kutcher to Sidney Poitier makes my brain hurt. I’m not aware of any films of the caliber of Dude, Where’s My Car? in Sidney’s filmography.

Let me get this straight. A character in the movie makes a comment that plays on racial stereotypes and we’re supposed to be all in an uproar? Seriously, dude, get the fuck over yourself.

Yeah, because that’s never happened in a movie before. If the commercials for Guess Who have got you all in a snit, please, for the love of all that’s holy do NOT watch Bringing Down the House with Queen Latifah*.

*[sub]Mostly because it sucked, but my point still stands.[/sub]

Well, aren’t you special?

Most of us are forced to actually watch a movie to tell the tone of the whole movie.

Those in the advanced class can tell the tone of the whole movie from watching the whole trailer.

But, you. . .dang. You got the tone of the whole movie just from one of the PARTS of the TRAILER.

That is impressive, indeed.

Or do you just want to start another stupid, why is it all right when they stereotype whites “debate”?

Come on, Honky, is that what you want?

You should be even more impressed with me; I got the tone of the whole movie just from this thread.

You should know by now that racism directed at white men is ok (hell it’s even funny). Every other group in the world is absofuckinlutely off limits but feel free to jack around with the white man all you want.

Seriously, Racism is ignorant bullshit regardless of where it’s directed.

Unclviny
::dons flame-proof suit::

I hope you aren’t serious. I’m guessing a poll of all participants of this thread asking who’s actually seen it would yield only one person. And let that person say he was pleasantly surprised, and that most critics didn’t even “get” most of the parts that they disparaged (like the notorious dinner scene).

You’re a dumbass if you think blacks and other racial minorities are off-limits with regards to racial stereotyping in movies and television. I submit the aforementioned Bringing Down the House as my evidence, along with Soul Plane, The Friday Trilogy, Undercover Brother, South Park and Chappelle’s Show.

Also, playing on racial stereotypes does not equal racism. Stop throwing that word around so lightly.

So racial stereotypes are ok now?. Thanks for the update I was under the impression that they were wrong (regardless of them happening or not, bad behavior is bad behavior.)

Unclviny

Man, I’d be so angry if someone mistakenly assumed I was a white-collar professional just because of my skin color. Black people are always whining with their “Oh, don’t treat me like a criminal just because of my skin color!”, but that’s nothing compared to the way a fictional character in a comedy movie made the horribly offensive and racist assumption that another fictional character played by Ashton Kutcher might have a serious profession just because he’s white. No one is more oppressed than the white man.

Your question is subjective and an non sequitur. If you think they’re wrong, then don’t laugh at them or watch movies/television shows that exploit them. If you don’t, have at it.

The only update I gave you was exploiting racial stereotypes for humor does not automatically equal racism. As I stated before, if you’re under the impression they’re wrong, by all means, remain under that impression. You’re impression, by the very definition of the word, is subjective. Don’t expect everyone else to labor under it with you.

WOO-HOO!,
Racial stereotypes have been approved!. I can’t wait to go find me a rap music listenin’, fried chicken eatin’, nappy headed, watermelon lovin’, fake Gold wearin’, thug wanna be with fake Gold teeth and start making fun of them!.

Unclviny (who thinks UrbanChic is a freaking moron)

If that’s what you concluded from my posts, I submit that you, sir, are the moron.

I probably won’t watch this movie for the same reason that I refuse to see the movie White Chicks.

If putting characters in blackface is not acceptable, putting them in whiteface shouldn’t be either. And if a movie that relies heavily on racial stereotyping of blacks does not sit well with me, neither will one that relies heavily on racial stereotyping of whites.

Again, a poll of who here has seen the movie.

::pizzabrat raises his lonley hand::

Thought so. There is no heavy stereotyping of whites in the movie. There are probably about two jokes playing on stereotypes about whites in the movie, and they’re so obscure that your average white viewer probably wouldn’t even catch them.