Neither. There is a cadre of idiots here, that have deemed that I am a liar and a jerk, because I have had the temerity to stand up to jerks who work in retail, and the police, and have made me their own personal pariah. I am often accused of lying, and even when presented evidence to the contrary, which I will soon do, once again, regarding this thread, cannot give up their notions. As soon as I can find my card reader, ample photographic proof will be provided here. Expect these cretins to accuse me of faking the evidence. :rolleyes:
Oh, please, don’t pretend to be so hard done by. We don’t think you are a liar and a jerk because of your ‘temerity’ - we think so because you act like a lying jerk. You have never provided any proof of any sort for anything, and the things you think are proof are laughably general and prove nothing. If anyone else had posted this thread they would have gotten more sympathy (although I wouldn’t believe the gum thing from anyone - I suspect there is more to the story) - you are just reaping what you sowed. When you act like an asshole, people will treat you like an asshole. Clearly you still haven’t learned this important lesson.
ETA: Before you post the pictures, I’d like to say that I doubt they will prove anything. I have no doubt that you fell off your bike, so the injuries are to be expected, and having gum on your bike tires is hardly unexpected. I bet if I went to look at my bike right now I could find some. I think you either rode over something else, got distracted and swerved out of control, or accidentally hit your front break instead of your back. Conveniently for you, photos won’t show any of those things.
I will let the photos speak for themselves. And at least I can spell “brake”.
Maybe the gum would have been less of an issue if you didn’t let crud build up on your tires like that? :dubious:
The crud is sticking to the gum. It was picked up after the accident as I limped home.
What, all of it? How much gum was there? And also, when was the last time you replaced those nearly-bald tires?
As I suspected, nothing that convinces me that you didn’t fall for some other reason. There is so much crap on your tire that there is no way to tell if the gum is new or not. I remain unconvinced.
But, you got me on the spelling of ‘brake’ - you making up endless amounts of shit pales in comparison to the ultimate crime of me making a simple homonym substitution. Do you feel like a man now? :rolleyes:
The tires are pretty new, they came with the bike which only has about 1200 miles on it. That is just the tread pattern they came with, slicks on the middle, the only tread is on the edges.
Yeah, I ride around with a bunch of crap on the tires of my very expensive carbon frame bike. :rolleyes: All that crap was picked up by the gum as I rode home after the wreck. And what about all the strands of shredded gum that were flung all over my frame and spokes and brake cables? I ride around with all that too! :rolleyes:
As I predicted, morons here won’t believe photographic evidence.
I admit, I was surprised when I picked myself up after the accident and saw the cause. In thousands of miles of riding, I have never had this happen, and have never heard of gum causing an accident like this.
My point in starting this thread wasn’t to create an elaborate hoax because I dislike people who chew gum, or the act of doing so. It was to let those who do chew gum understand that spitting your gum onto the ground, aside from being a very low class and gross thing to do, creates a very real and possibly deadly hazard to cyclists. I was flung to my left in this incident, and had a car been following, I likely would have been run over. I am fortunate that my injuries seem to be minor and I do expect a full recovery, thank God.
I understand that there are many here who doubt my every word, and think I am some kind of compulsive liar, and who cannot apply occam’s razor to the most obvious situation, but that is their problem, not mine. Rational people will examine the photos I have provided and realize that the events I have recounted are based in fact.
I’m waiting for the next post, where a candy wrapper, a bottle cap and a plastic bag corner him and steal his lunch money.
Damnit, I thought we were going to get to see his shiner and his swollen face 
Just one little picture of a black eye that could have been given to him by anyone
I could not care less about how expensive your bike was. What the hell does that have to do with it? As for the strands, they could have been there before, or they could be from a wad of gum you picked up earlier in your ride before you fell down. I’ve seen similar gummy messes on my own tires - it is quite disgusting, but not enough to make someone go over the handlebars.
Occam’s razor is not your friend here - it hold that the simplest explaination is most likely to be the correct one. There are numerous simple explainations for those photos. The photos prove nothing.
You have a history of recounting wildly embellished fanciful stories, most of which anyone over the age of 15 could find serious holes in. If you hadn’t told all those stories in the past, maybe people would be more inclined to believe you now. Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?
There’s one photo of a shiner in Schmenge’s link. As you say, anyone could’ve given it to him.
Whatever, liar. I can get you a picture of Queen Elizabeth blowing a dolphin.
There is no way a piece of gum got stuck between your fork and the wheel and caused you to flip over the handlebar. Regardless of where you claim it got stuck, there is no way a piece of gum is going to cause you to flip over the handlebar of a bike. Full stop.
Again, you’re a fucking liar.
So, where’s the picture of the gum wedged in the spot where it stuck so hard it caused your front wheel to stick so you went tumbling over?
Oh, wait, there isn’t one. Because it didn’t happen.
Sorry you crashed your bike, Stan. That sucks.
But your pitting of all gum-chewers is way over the top. If you’d been hit by a car, would you pit every car owner in the world?
If your version of the story is true (and I have no real reason to believe it isn’t), you want to pit one inconsiderate idiot who threw his or her used gum in the street. Other than that, why the fuck should you care if chewing makes somebody else look stupid – in your opinion? And you’re really such a precious flower that you can’t stand to hear a little popping sound from a nearby cubicle? You must have a really quiet office, because I wouldn’t even notice that where I work.
And by the way, despite such a lame pitting, I didn’t think you were a jerk when I read your OP…
…but now I do.
Carbon-fiber frames are only appropriate for two types of people: Professional-level cyclists and pretentious pansies.
Huh, I didn’t know **Stan **was a professional-level cycl-- wait a minute!
I don’t have a reason to believe you’re lying and, in fact, I think you’re probably being accurate with your perspective here; however, I doubt that what you think happened is what actually happened. Here’s my reasons why:
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The shreds of gum all over the bike don’t lead me to believe it got caught and instantly stopped the tire. If that had happened, it would have been largely jammed into the narrow clearance with very little splatter. Instead, it leads me to believe the gum passed through the narrow passage multiple times with fairly high speed, which repeatedly cut off many smaller shreds that got all over your bike. If it went through multiple times, then it’s unlikely that it would then suddenly stop the bike.
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The very nature of gum precludes this sort of event. Unless the clump of gum was several pieces, it’s difficult to believe it would actually tensil strength to not simply get torn apart into shred when faced with however much mass and velocity the bike had. Further, as anyone who chews gum is aware, it stretches fine at lower speeds, but a high velocity is applied, it snaps quickly. I submit that any reasonable speed you would have been travelling at would have been well above that level.
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You mention that you walked the bike home and that’s how the crud got all over the gum. Did you clean the cum out first? Otherwise, if it was enough to stop the bike moving at high speed, how were you then able to roll it along home just fine without cleaning the gum out? If you didn’t, did you simply drag the tire along?
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Of the shreds on your bike, if your account were correct, I would expect to see a clump stuck to the breaks, but I do not. the photos of the wheels show it. Instead, I see long, thin shreds around it, which is consistent with my first point. Further, I see long thin shreds wrapped around the spokes, which also implies the shreds being cast out as the wheel was spinning rather than in a sudden jolt.
So, my guess at what happened, is that you hit some gum at some point along the way, it got shredded and all over your bike, and then hit something else that you obviously didn’t see, perhaps a rock, a crack, a bump… who knows. When you looked at the bike, you saw the gum and, absent another suspect, thought that it was the culprit.
I’m sorry you got injured, but I think your anger is misplaced.
Blaster Master said everything I was thinking but too lazy to type out. Except I spelled “brakes” right in my head. Thanks, Blaster.
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You missed a spot when you edited.
“Did you clean the cum out first?” Heeheeheeheeeeeeeeeeeee.