Just wanted to poke my head in here and say I’ve been involved in two occasions where I used deadly force using a firearm. The first time was during a traffic stop when I was a police officer and the second time was during an attempted carjacking after I left law enforcement (unrelated to the aforementioned traffic stop).
Therefore, I am and will always be armed in accordance with the law. If it happened once (or twice), it can surely happen again. The fact that DragonAsh didn’t believe when someone says they’ve used a firearm in defense of their own life is quite shortsighted and asinine.
I have no idea what you were talking about. You said, I and quote, ‘How many people do you think are killed by accident or mistake every year?’. To which the data says, ‘over 100,000 per year’. Did you mean specifically by guns? Then the answer is hundreds. Again, I ask…so what?
How many people do you think are killed by accident or mistake by their alarm system each year? How many people do you think are non-fatally harmed by their alarm system each year?
Which do you think is more effective in discouraging criminals from illegally entering your house: Proper locks on doors & windows and a working alarm system, or your gun?
OK so you don’t really “need” your alarm system then do you? I mean you maybe poke the buttons on it, but it has never saved your life.
I’m sure it did, 100% of the times that I needed it.
OK, so I’m not in a gang, I’m not an alcoholic, my girlfriend and I don’t have a history of domestic abuse, and I’ve taken gun safety courses. So exactly what data are you referring to that’s clear with regards to my safety?
No? So you’re as pro 2nd amendment as Diane Feinstein then? So exactly what steps do you propose to lesson gun violence?
How many people does an alarm system guard once they leave their home?
How long does it take the cops to arrive after your alarm goes off? Don’t they have to call you and all your friends on the phone list before they even dial the cops?
I’ll take my gun. I have deadbolts on my doors but a brick will smash any window.
Well DragonAsh loves his confirmation bias. Any data point that agrees with him is the gospel truth, any data point that goes against his preset opinion is obviously an exaggeration, a lie, or something to conveniently ignore.
DragonAsh, I don’t want to seem like I’m jumping your shit, because I’m not. I value your opinion just as much as someone who shares my same beliefs. However, it would take an abacus to figure the number of perpetrators I’ve discovered inside a business our residence while the audible alarm was still sounding. That said, I know an alarm is not an effective deterrent.
So in a conversation about guns,you didn’t have any idea what I was talking about? And you make enough money that you feel like you can confidently state that you make more in a month than a total stranger makes in a year? Who are you? Kim Kardashian?
The number is negligible, thats what. More people are hit by lightning every year than die from accidental gun shots.
That leaves one instance as a civilian where you used your gun. But aside from that, I have two questions:
If you hadn’t had a gun, what do you think would have happened? (Hypothetical, I know, but I believe that in virtually all cases, surrendering your car doesn’t result in any physical harm.)
How did the car jackers get a gun? (I suspect it was no trouble for them because guns are so easily available.)
Based on one solitary incident?
If innocent bystanders have been killed by gun accidents and gun owners going berserk, it can surely happen again, too. There is another side to the coin, you know
Do you believe everything you’re told by anonymous posters on the Internet?
It’s possible you’re on drugs or something, I suppose. Signs of a working, active alarm system is one of the single best deterrents to burglars for a home you can implement. I don’t know that anyone would even dispute this?
And I’m sure more people post kitten videos to youtube every year than die from accidental gun shots. What the fuck point are you even trying to make? Only 40-50 people die a year from lightening, vs the hundreds per year from purely accidental gun shots. You call that ‘negligible’?
Huh? If the window area is compromised or if someone tries to get in through the window, the alarm goes off. Lights flashing, very very loud alarm, etc. It’s not rocket science.
Regulate & tax (federal, state, local) the shit out of 'em; make it enormously expensive to own/maintain; gi-normous penalties for being caught with an unlicensed firearm; you’re held partially responsible for any crime committed with a firearm licensed to you unless reported, tax breaks for alarm system installation etc. That’s just for starters off the top of my head.
I enjoy a good debate just as much as the next person, but you take all the joy out of it being a condescending asshole. To answer your question, no I’m not on drugs. I just told you that signs of an active, working alarm system don’t mean shit. Honestly, the best deterrent I can think of is hanging up your silhouette target from the last trip to the range. Seeing holes punched in the 10 ring means more to a thug than your dumb fucking alarm.
