And Littleton, Colorado had (and still has) a crime rate well below the national average.
Reread what I posted. I didn’t say a mass shooting was probable; I said it was the most likely “OH FUCKING SHIT” (IOW, extreme) situation.
But that was a nice attempt at deflection.
Meleanie Hain (what a painful spelling) was chatting with a friend on a web cam when her husband shot her with a 9 mm handgun. Her own gun was elsewhere in the house. The husband then went upstairs and killed himself with a shotgun. She told her attorney earlier in the year that she was separating from her husband, but they were still living together. Link here.
Yes, this is exactly what I came here to say. I’m sad for the kids, but also sad that a lesson had to be learned this way. People who think that danger is just around the corner often neglect to see it close to them. Isn’t it true that gun owners are more likely to shoot themselves or a relative than a criminal? The fact that she was obsessed with making some kind of 2nd Amendment statement by stupidly bringing it to a place that was inappropriate for her radical agenda makes her death the prime example of a stupid gun nut ironically proving the point of her opposition. I’m not happy their kids are now orphans, but for the adults themselves I have little sympathy: they did this to themselves.
That’s silly. Why should I?
However since you missed why I consider it ironic. It’s ironic because the object of her focus was her undoing. Also it’s ironic because the first irony damaged the very cause she advocated for that object. It’s like irony stacked on irony. You don’t see irony like that much. It’s almost like art, I mean you gotta appriciate the quality of this irony.
Except it’s real people, not art, and real traumatized kids so it’s a sad thing.
Then a guy who’s really into cars who dies by getting hit by a car while crossing the street is roughly equally ironic, right? We should have some threads where we all laugh at him and revel in the delicious comeuppance.
Except that it is not. I’d think in a public gathering that you are far more likely to encounter someone having a heart attack than a mass shooting. No one straps an automated external defibrillator on their belt because there is no goddamned John Wayne fantasy about it, but it would save more lives.
I don’t know. Certainly it would have been funny if she accidentally shot and killed herself during a soccer game. (Which I kind of expected based on the thread title)
But I fail to see how carrying a gun makes it funny if you are murdered in front of your kids.
Yeah… if someone wants to kill you, that sucks. We already knew that. Nobody said owning a gun makes you invincible.
Finding it funny because the victim carried a gun betrays an ugly bias IMO.
Actually a gearhead being taken out by a car would be ironic. The object of focus of his life resulted in his death. It wouldn’t be funny though. Irony doesn’t have to be funny.
It’s not funny.
That’s quite a petulant little fit you’ve thrown here. These aren’t “my analyses”. These are empirical articles published in journals such as the New England Journal of Medicine, Annals of Emergency Medicine, the American Journal of Public Health.
Your claim about the methodology in the Kellermann article is of course complete bullshit. The definition of homicide in the Kellermann study was limited to the house, garage or yard. Can you cite otherwise? I’d say you were lying, but I suspect you’ve just been duped by some fucknut website - so more like gullible or stupid than intentionally deceitful.
How do you dispense with Wiebe 2003, Dahlberg et al 2004 and Cummings et al., 1997? All of them find that the risk of homicide and of suicide is greater for those with firearms in the home in contrast to those without.
What if a driver died because they were distracted by one of those tacky crosses people put by the road to remember somebody who died in a car crash?
I bet since we have had a higher rate of seatbelt use that there has been a corresponding increase in the number of people who were killed with their seatbelt on.
Do you know what WOULD be ironic? If some of the people posting in this thread were to talk about how some dude with a gun in his car at some child’s sporting event killed a gunman.
Haha ya dumb bitch you got mudered.
This woman’s political views with which I disagree render her fit to slaughtered. Let us all gather round to laugh at this stupid whore’s demise.
^^This is what I am basically reading in this thread.
SenorBeef In all fairness what is ironic about it is that the gun she carried everywhere wasn’t there to protect her from the person most likely to do her in. All this other gleeful lick-lipping I have no truck with, but I do see the irony. It’s not pleasant or funny irony, but it is ironic.
Oh, that’s where those goalposts went.
A gun in his car is totally different than a gun on his hip.
I don’t remember anyone saying this, you chucklebottomed lunatic.
Ok, you flogged this failed analogy around enough, I’ll take a whack at it. No, a guy who drives a car getting killed by a car is not ironic because we ALL drive cars. It’s common, no one is upset by it. But even law abiding, legal CC gun owners don’t go strapped to a children’s soccer game. It’s stupid, irresponsible and scares the shit out of everyone there because it never happens. Bullies like her who intimidate others and then get killed by their intimidation weapon of choice is ironic. It’s tragic for the kids but still ironic. Have you no sympathy for the parents and children she traumatized by brandishing a fucking Glock at a parent/child event? Jeezus.
Who cares? The woman was trailer trash. Too bad she had a chance to breed before getting her stupid attention-whoring self killed.
Oh, I know what would be ironic. Winning a demolition derby and *then *getting hit by a car.
Or getting hit by a soccer ball that somebody fired from a soccer-ball firing gun from a car, while you were hunting.
I’ll address this tomorrow when I have more time.
Holy shit, no I don’t have sympathy for them, you collosal pussy.
The story makes no story of her “brandishing” her weapon. Brandishing would mean that she waved it around, pointed it, used it threatningly. She let it sit in her holster. In an area where it’s legal to do so. Poor etiquette and bad judgement? Maybe. But fucking traumatizing?
What kind of pathetic worldview do you have where people who saw a 2 pound piece of plastic and metal on someone’s hip are “traumatized”? Will the kids have to go to counselling for the rest of their lives? OH GOD IT WAS SO HORRIBLE. I SAW A GUN… IN A HOLSTER… ON SOMEONE’S HIP. It doesn’t take much to qualify for victimhood apparently.
The story makes no mention of her making any threats, removing the gun from its holster at all, or doing anything except simply having it. If you find this to be traumatizing then you are just providing evidence of all of the irrationality and hysteria I mentioned previously about this issue. If the sight of a little hunk of metal and plastic shatters your psyche, you have some serious problems.
Again we’re back to “a gun owner gets killed by a gun! I hate gun owners, so HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA”