gunstock refinishing

I have a remington 700bdl in 270Win I got second hand. It seems to work, giving inch-and-a-half groups off a bench at 100 yards. Good enough.

But it has no recoil pad, the barrel is not free floating, the stock finish is chipped in a few places, and the blueing is a bit worn in places. So now that hunting season is almost over and there’s no chance I’ll get out for real this year, I was sorta toying with the idea of cutting the stock down, grinding out the pressure point, stripping off the finish, re-finishing it with tung oil, and installing a recoil pad. Oh, and touching up the barrel blueing too.

Would any or all of this be a dumb idea? Would floating the barrel, in particular, be messing with what ain’t broke? Would any of it be far more effort than it’s worth (keeping in mind that I do genuinely enjoy woodworking, but also that the budget is on the tight side)? And if I do decide to go ahead with the job, any product recommendations, for either the stripping or the refinishing?

Not sure how much is “too much” here, but I recently refinished the stock on my Steyr .30-06, out of necessity, and enjoyed it very much. The original finish was a satin, with a redish walnut.
Essentially, I had to refinish the stock because the cheek riser had chipped when I mounted the gun incorrectly in my target vice. I started by sanding down a portion of the stock and finding a stain that closely matched the original color (heck…not even “closely”, this stuff was an EXACT match - Minwax Red Mahogany 225 - very pretty, and I recommend it if you are looking for a pretty color without trying to match the Remington’s original color). I then sanded the entire stock, and smoothing out the chipped area and feathering it out so that it looked like a factory shape, without a sharp “demarcation” where it had been worked on. I followed it up with a single, light coat of the stain, which was quick and easy to put on with a lint-free cloth. I let it dry overnight, gave it a quick polish with some #00 steel wool and then used a tack-cloth to remove any additional dust or steel. I followed up with some Minwas Fast-Drying spray-on satin-finish polyurethane. Following the instructions on the can VERY carefully, I applied about 10 or 12 very, VERY light coats of the poly, taking a couple of days to do so. The end result is an absolutely perfect factory-spec finish that no one is going to be able to tell is NOT the original factory finish.
I was skeptical of the spray-on poly at first, but it gave me MUCH better results than the rub-on poly’s I’ve tried in the past. I think, as long as you follow the directions closely, it’s pretty much fool-proof, and the finish is tough as nails. I’ve had the gun out many times this season and have yet to put a dent in it (which is more than I can actually say of the original factory finish - it usually dinged fairly easily). The most important thing to remember: patience is your friend, when refinishing the stock.

As far as the blueing goes, I’ve never re-blued a barrel from scratch, but I’ve found the Birchwood Casey product to be fairly easy to use and gives me good results for spot-blueing.

  • Dirk

I’d go ahaead with everything but the free floating. Lots of the skinny-barrel 700’s shoot better with a little upward pressure on the barrel. If you grind it out and groups get worse then you’ll just end up having to shim it. How do I know? I buggered up a 700 in .308 by grinding out the pressure point. Got a lecture on why one shouldn’t do that from a gunsmith friend.

If you’re going to re-finish the entire stock, I would suggest removing all of the old finish and using a stain for the whole piece of wood. I have had good results using a bead blaster to remove the old finish (just remember to set the air pressure very low - I used about 25 PSI for the cabinet I used; you may want to try a test piece of wood before you start on your stock.) I use Birchwood Casey walnut stain, followed by about a dozen coats of tung oil - there’s nothing like rubbing that oil in by hand. The result is a deep matte finish on the wood.

Thanks, especially to Scumpup. Remington’s site said the gun ``features’’ a pressure point on the barrel, which did not agree with what I had heard about such a point being a bug, not a feature :slight_smile:

Do chemical strippers such as this one not work on whatever’s there now? That would seem to me the easiest way to go, given the lack of access to a bead blaster…

The synthetic finish Remington puts on their wooden stocks is a bear to remove by sanding. On the couple Remmies I have refinished, though, I did get good results using chemical strippers. Been a few years, but I think the brand I used was Homer Formby.

I know NOTHING about guns - the only reason I opened the thread was the word “refinish”.

I assume that this is not a collectible gun, right?
I ask simply because if it is not, then refinish away - if there is a lot of value in it as a collectible, then you might think about it before moving forward.

As a guitar player, I differentiate between Players and Collectibles. I only own Players so I can abuse the heck out of them…

Ditto what WordMan said.

I own a Fox Sterlingworth that would be worth far more than it is currently, due to the fact that my great-grandfather sanded down and refinished the stock, and replaced the buttplate with one from a Remington.

The shotgun still gets a lot of attention when I take it to the trap range, though. Not many people there are using a 90 year old shotgun made by one of America’s best known shotgun craftsmen.

Nah, I think there were something like half a bajillion of these things made, and while it’s not the cheapest gun in the catalogue, it is still an off-the-shelf mass-produced deer-killing tool, rather than a collectible piece of fine craftsmanship :slight_smile:

I guess the last thing that’s worrying me is cutting the stock down to put a recoil pad on it. Is there a simple guideline for how long the stock should be to fit my arm the best? I could of course cut it to end up the same length as now, but while I’m at it, I might as well fit it to myself as perfectly as possible, right? And any easy way to get the angles at which I would cut it to be all square and good? I have a power jig saw and a panel saw… Would I be better off getting a shop to do the cutting at least, if they have better tools and jigs set up for that sort of thing?

For the stock, I’ve always been a big fan of rubbed oil. If you do it right, it’s a great finish, good for the wood, and good for a hunting gun vs. 1/8" thick high gloss. It’s just a very warm finish and if you get it sealed right and the pores filled with dust, it is smooth as silk and weatherproof for life.

As far as free floating, it’s a tough call. 1.5 inches at 100 yards is pretty good for a hunting rifle. If you aren’t planning on competitive shooting, or long range hunting (300+ yards), I wouldn’t bother. Everyone wants a 1 inch group at most, but I know very few people who can come close to shooting one, even with rifles that can do it in a bench vise. I’ve always been more of a fan of glass bedding myself. Free floating can be an improvement, but it can also be a bad thing. If you do decide on trying free floating, I would do it before you did anything else, then test fire it with the same ammo you’ve been using. If it gets worse, you can at least glass bed it back. Don’t refinish it first only to find out that you have to do more woodwork.

For recoil pads, generally you just cut down the same amount to leave the stock the same length, mount the pad and grind it down to contour. If you like the way the rifle feels and you shoot it well, leave it. If you think it is too long, take a bit here and there and try it out. When you get to what you think feels good, take the length of the pad off. Personally, I think it is worth the very little cost to have a gunsmith do it over the effort, but since you are going to be refinishing and all else, why not? Just remember, once you cut, it’s gone. You’ll wind up having to shim, and while it can be done in an attractive manner, it’s a pain.

For blueing, I’ve tried a bunch of cold blueing solutions over the years, and while they work okay for an entire piece, you aren’t going to match the original blueing. From experience, it is well worth some bucks to have a gunsmith hot blue it if you have one around with the equipment to do it. Not many do these days because of EPA crap though. Cold blueing will work in a pinch and is pretty idiot proof, but a good hot blueing is gorgeous. You have a nice rifle. A nice rifle is like a good woman. Naked or in a burlap sack, they are beautiful. But dress them the way they want to be dressed, and dayyyummmmmmmm. (No offense to any girls).
That said, a personalized rifle can be a wonderful thing. Quick story: When I was 16, I bought a Savage 99 in the (at the time) new .375 “Big Bore” at a great price. I didn’t like lever actions in general, this proved to be no different, and traded my dad for a lever action 30-06 with a name we had never heard of that he had just bought from some old-timer for $100. It was pretty as hell, but had a really long stock and a 28 inch barrel. In my neck of the woods, it was very impractical. It was like walking through the bush with a 10 foot ladder. I immediately cut 4 inches off the ridiculously styled stock, mounted a Pachmyer white line pad, and cut 8 inches off the barrel. A year later, looking through a gun digest, I found I had basically destroyed an $1800 Winslow. And I would do it again. I can walk with this rifle through woods. Eventually, I glass bedded it, which improved the accuracy a bit, stripped it, pulled the garish inlays out of it and wood burned my own “floral checkering ala Weatherby” into it, and refinished it. I wouldn’t sell it for 5 grand now. It was once a display piece. Now it is a hunting rifle. I still need to get it re-blued though, and might do some jewelling on it.