HA! The IRS "Scandal" Was A Crock O' Shit!

“a person who possesses great power, as a sovereign, monarch, or ruler”

I’d say Chancellor of Germany fits that definition.

No, they weren’t. Dana Milbank has never used that phrase to describe Obama or anyone else.

And he’s hardly an objective source for a view on President Obama’s performance: Yale University alum and Skull & Bones member who’s basically made a living since January 2009 criticizing Obama and his administration.

He’s thinking it at you as hard as he can.

This didn’t happen long enough ago for you to misrepresent it this baldly, and especially with fake “quotes.”

The intelligence briefing issued 36 days before 9/11 was that Bin Laden had Al Qaeda agents in the United States to hijack an aircraft. This followed a July 2001 memo from the FBI recommending investigation of civil aviation schools to find terrorists sent by Osama Bin Laden to train as pilots.

Eh. If the OP wanted this to be a discussion of the “wider issue” he shouldn’t have made his only validating piece of evidence the fact that some Republican said Obama wasn’t involved. If he chooses to move the goal post, that’s fine going forward. I was responding to the OP as written, not how you might have wanted it to be written.

Uh, guys, can we please set the bar a little higher than Bush? Just sayin is all.

Aside: Saw a bumper sticker yesterday: “Think about honking if you (heart) conceptual art.”

You’ve got to be fucking kidding me! The guy who, when he was directly asked about regrets, said that the only one he could think of was trading Sammy Sosa? Who looked at his reelection as his “accountability moment,” like it was some kind of responsibility white out? Who keeps saying that only history will be able to judge his presidency? Who gamed the interactive display at his presidential library so that you cannot correct his mistakes?

That’s your model for responsibility? Some day you should try not being a partisan stooge.

He would vanish in a puff of smoke if he ever did.

From your cite:

I don’t know what he was trying to say, but what he did say doesn’t seem like a reason to turn handsprings.

There are something like 800 people on that list, none of which, including the Tsarnaevs, had any probable cause to arrest them. What would you have the authorities, put them all in the pokey, just in case?

Having one Republican concede that Obama was likely not in his opinion directly responsible for sicking the IRS on conservative groups, does not translate in my mind to “The IRS Scandal Was A Crock Of Shit, Neener Neener”.

The contention commonly made by the right wing has been that Obama and Co.'s attacks on Tea Party/right wing groups encouraged functionaries at the IRS to go after said groups to please their boss. Debatable certainly, but not the same as the same as claiming that the White House conspired to punish its political enemies through the IRS.

This is a nice bit of phraseology.

Not nearly as good as when the Watergate conspirators were admitting to being “overzealous”, but nifty nonetheless.

And no, I don’t think the IRS brouhaha is comparable to Watergate.

No, just saying that all that surveillance doesn’t accomplish much given the fact that we can’t arrest people until they actually do something or are in the stages of planning something.

Ddamn! Due process screwing things up again, huh?

:rolleyes:

Again, just saying the surveillance isn’t worth much, which I think most liberals would agree with me on if it was any other President doing it.

So guilty until they can come up with proof of their innocence?

The government isn’t innocent until proven guilty. The government has to prove it is innocent. That’s the responsibility that comes with power.

I would probably cite more headline news on the scandal spreading like mildfire, but there isn’t any. Nobody is likely to make a headline out of “Darryl Assa shuts his festering gob!”. Which is rather telling, considering his level of, ah, involvement, shall we say.

And the fallback position of where the bucks stops is industrial strength buttwhistle. Sure, the top guy in the executive is ultimately responsible. But galaxies can turn comfortably in the distance between that sort of passive failure of oversight and the original craptastic allegations and insinuations. So as a fallback position, that is some weak-ass shit. How much responsibility rests on Obama because the FDA didn’t stop AssWhole Foods from selling listeria cheese?

So steal, already.

In your mind.

So you assume that everything Issa makes up is true and that it’s up to the government to convince you otherwise. Great. But here’s the Captain Kirk Mindfuck—Issa is also part of the government.