Ah, that’s right. I knew one of those three was an alcoholic; just wasn’t sure which one. As for that quote, ouch. But it was also an ouch when Terry Gilliam said that one big reason Holy Grail was a nightmare to film was “Graham [Chapman] was a drunken sot.” I mean, he was, and all the other Pythons can corroborate.
ETA: Tibby, you can add Diana Ross v. the rest of the Supremes, and David Ruffin v. the rest of the Temptations. In both cases, it was solved by the one going solo, and the group hiring someone else.
Dean Martin was certainly a star in his own right, but I believe in the Martin & Lewis partnership audiences were drawn by Lewis’ zany comedy chops (though I don’t find many of his skits all that funny myself). Granted, Martin was the straight man, but I think he could have been replaced in that capacity, by others.
Dean Martin was a great crooner, and he became the King of Cool in Vegas, but Lewis dominated comedy at the time Martin & Lewis were popular and for a long while afterward, broadening into film-making and acting (he was the most popular movie actor from the 40s – 60s).
Rodgers himself could be difficult to work with, as I understand it. One story is that, late in their partnership, Hammerstein went to a doctor for stomach pains, and was told that he had an ulcer. Supposedly he said, “That son of a bitch Rodgers. He did this to me.”
Apocryphal, perhaps, but suggestive of certain aspects of their relationship. After Hammerstein’s death, Alan Jay Lerner attempted to collaborate with Rodgers, and Stephen Sondheim actually did. Neither one of them found it a particularly pleasant experience.
I attended an Evening with Peter Asher back in 2018 or 2019, and Peter told us that he and Gordon, in their live appearances, would enter the stage from opposite wings. This was an affectation they adopted from the Everly Brothers, whom they very much admired. He later found out that Don and Phil did that because they couldn’t stand each other, and this allowed them to avoid being backstage together.
And a lech. Shirley Jones told a story about him trying to pull the casting couch move on her when she was 18. She feigned innocence and claimed she felt safe with him because she thought of him as her “old grandpa”, which apparently deflated his ego (and possibly other things).
“Hall and Oates”, after wringing all they could out of the Pop-Rock scene of the 80’s slowly slipped into obscurity… only to re-invent themselves for the upcoming emergence of New Country in the 90’s.
With some clever stagecraft and Hollywood makeup, they hit the scene as “Brooks and Dunn”
Made a Buttload of Cash a second go-around. The real reason for the legal trouble is violation of a Non-Disclosure Agreement spilling the Beans.
They appear to be. After many years of being out of each other’s lives, they played together again in 2004, and now they reunite whenever the mood happens to strike them, most recently in 2022 as far as I can tell. There honestly doesn’t seem to have ever really been any bad blood between them. They did their thing together for a few years, recognized that it had stopped being a productive partnership, and quietly went their separate ways.
The video seen on YouTube where they were performing at this festival and the long-haired blonde guy was like seriously late so the other guy started their part of the concert he did show up he was so wasted that it took like 2songs for him to get kitted out to sing and they only had6 songs all together …and he did was just sang background becuase he had to sit down in a chair
Supposedly after that, they took a long break from performing
Not until you told me. I just didn’t expect the same woman who sang about smug pregnant women and handjobs would sing songs for children. But I’m down! If Shel Silverstein could write for adults and kids then Kate can too. Seriously, I had no clue these were supposed to be for children.
Kate has long had an interest in children’s entertainment. I was showed Dear Deer to a friend’s kid and she went crazy for it and wanted to watch it over and over. And while her pervious solo stuff hasn’t necessarily been for c Holstein specifically, it generally stays away from the provocative and explicit material that comes to the fore when she works with Riki.
I caught a show of Kate’s at the Steve Allen Theater in the Center for Inquiry back when I lived in LA — and again, while not necessarily for kids only, it was pretty all-ages with puppets and the like.
