There have been neo-Nazis prowling the streets of major US cities.
There have been summary executions by law enforcement agencies.
There are federal agents in unmarked vehicles beating and abducting dissidents.
There is a Head of State in a to-camera interview stating that the results of an election aren’t necessarily binding.
T. Snyder: On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons From The Twentieth Century.
“When the pro-leader paramilitary and the official police and military intermingle, the end has come.”
Wasn’t there a couple of safe-guards put into your famed Constitution by the Founding Fathers?
Isn’t it for this heroic scenario that Americans have personal arsenals of automatic weaponry? Where are these self-appointed protectors of life, liberty and the American way of life?
Or is it merely naked self-interest … “I’m prepared to die to protect the Constitution of this country, and my personal liberties … but I won’t wear a mask.”?
The old ‘merkins don’t get dat irony as a meme is wearing thin.
This has crossed over from irony and hypocrisy into fascism. Don’t know at precisely what point in time. I’m likely late to the realisation.
What colour shirts are these roosters wearing? For the sake of history we need a name, and “patriots” doesn’t cut the mustard.
And well-regulated-militia-ing is only called for to oppose liberal elitist tyranny. I mean, the movement to abolish slavery in Britain started in the 1770’s. So the American War of Independence was basically fought to liberate us from liberal elite SJW BLM-ers.
Those loons, er, militias are not adverse to neo-Nazis, do not have a problem with the particular people getting summarily executed being executed, are not unhappy about the particular people getting abducted being abducted, and are supportive of that particular head of state.
Right. As we all know, Washington was about to start his tyrannical dynasty when to his chagrin the U.S. Constitution was written by a stray cat running across a keyboard.
Well, yes. The Founding Fathers were well aware that people tend to run roughshod over other people’s rights if not restrained by a legal document. People naturally tend towards tyranny if power unchecked; democracy and pluralism is not the natural state of humans. And even if they don’t like tyranny, they will put up far less resistance to one that shares their political leaning than one that doesn’t.
So, a large society of humans chose to adopt a Constitution that safeguards against tyranny, and have upheld its principles unwaveringly for hundreds of years. But you arbitrarily label that “unnatural”, in order do dismiss it as evidence that many people are opposed to tyranny in principle?
How am to I work out which of the things that humans do are “natural” and which are “unnatural”? If the things you deem unnatural do not come from humans themselves, what is their origin?
I’d be happy to participate in some Constitutional debate in GD or IMHO, if you want. But I think we are derailing the OP’s thread so I won’t go further here.
At any rate, my main point was - the reason you don’t see right-wing militias up in arms over Trump’s federal-agent crackdown in Portland is because Trump is on those right-wingers’ side. They either are happy with what he is doing, or even if they disapprove on some philosophical level, sure aren’t going to go to any length of effort to stop Trump when he’s targeting the Antifa, BLM, etc. that they despise. That’s what I mean by “people are OK with tyranny when it’s a tyrant on their side.”
Now, if it were Obama cracking down on conservatives, they’d be all 2nd Amendment on that.
What exactly do you imagine is being derailed when hypocrisy about Constitutional principles is precisely what the OP is about?
I got what you meant in your first post, and obviously I’m disputing the veracity of your “both sides” claim. Just because deplorable MAGA fuckwits and their Republican enablers don’t give a shit about the Constitution except when it suits them doesn’t mean nobody else thinks the principles laid out in the Constitution are important.
I don’t know about “militias” one way or the other, but there are loads of American mercenary companies and private militaries. Blackwater, Constellis, Halliburton… the names keep shifting. A lot of them do work for the US DoD, but, who knows, with the right bankroll you too, or your neighborhood/city, could hire a private army of professional soldiers and consultants.
