I recall a scene from one of the movies (Red Dragon, Silence of the Lambs or Hannibal) in which Will (the cop who initially catches Hannibal) goes to his house to question him on some obscure things, notices his notes for cooking referring to a part of the body that was cut from one of the victims when Hannibal comes back in, stabs Will with a knife that makes him drop his gun, but Will saves himself by grabbing some arrows from Hannibal’s Amazonian rain forest collection and skewers Hannibal with the arrows, thuis saving himself and capturing Hannibal.
However, when I went to watch Red Dragon again, on the DVD, I could not find the scene!?! I didn’t notice any glitches in the DVD, but I suppose it’s possible I may have dozed off without noticing? I seemed to remember it was near the beginning of the film…
Maybe my DVD is corrupted?
It was a great scene, I doubt it was in any of the other movies, since Will wasn’t in any of the other movies…
I don’t know the movies. However, IIRC, Hannibal was originally captured by Will, who had gone to Lecter’s office to question him. He sees a reproduction of some famous anatomical picture called Wound Man which shows arrows in a body. It matches the way one of the victims was found and Will intuits that Lecter is the murderer. He steps out to make a phone call and Lecter comes out and stabs him with a knife. Maybe this was shown in flashback in one of the movies?
IIRC, there’s no such scene in Manhunter, either. We don’t even get the flashback to the original capture included in Red Dragon, and Graham and Lecter meet only once in person, and then have a brief correspondence over the phone.
I saw Red Dragon not too long ago, and remember that scene exactly as you describe it. Hannibal stabs him, then Will gets him with the arrow. It’s definitely the beginning, maybe even the first scene after the credits.
Maybe the DVD is a different “cut”? I watched it on a movie channel, either Starz or HBO (or one of their other channels), so maybe they show a different version. Or maybe the scene was inserted into the “super extra special DVD re-release version” that is so common nowadays.
I remember watching Top Secret on Comedy Central and they had some extra scenes that weren’t on the VHS copy I owned. So it’s possible things like that happen with other movies with various scenes added/removed between TV/Home Copy.
Actually, it might be the scene before the opening credits, because they show a bunch of newspaper clippings during the real credits related to the capture of Hannibal.
Arrows were only in the Wounded Man pic in the novel Red Dragon.
Will abouyt Lecter knew when he saw the drawing, and Lecter knew Will knew. Part of the concept in the novel that Will was also insane, just on the side of the Good Guys.
Lecter fled and presumably was caught now that they knew he was the killer.
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Will stabbing Lecter was just messing with a great novel, like Clarice not being controlled by Lecter in the movie Hannibal and Lecter cutting his hand off. Hell, he picked a hancuff lock in Silence of the Lambs with an ink pen cartridge.
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Hell, I have a list of folks I’d like to make eat their own brain.
The opening of Red Dragon is quite clear. Lecter is at a concert, cringes slightly at the playing of the flautist. Later on, he’s hosting a dinner party with a lot of pretentious artsy-types, one of whom comments on the flautist’s disappearance (as well as how delicious the mystery meat is), while another reflects how lousy his playing was. The guest eventually leave and Will shows up, talks about the case and shares a realization with Lecter; that one of the victims had been found missing parts of his body that in animals is often referred to as the “oysters” (soft muscle tissue near the spine). During this conversation, Will spots a diagram in an anatomy book in Lecter’s library with these body parts highlighted and it clicks, just in time for Lecter that drive a knife into Will. In defense, Will grabs a quiver of arrows and jams them into Lecter. Then a series of newspaper headlines summarize Lecter’s subsequent trial and commitment and the movie begins.
Agrippina and Bryan Ekers - my overwhelming thanks to you for solving this so quickly. Now I just have to wait un til my loaned copy comes back; it was one of my favorite scenes in the movie, and I was afraid I had lost it.
Mods? No reason to keep this thread open any longer. Thank you all.
