I saw it yesterday and liked it a lot. It’s been a while since I read the book (Four years apparently. Has it really been that long?) but I was surprised at how much carried over from it. (Perhaps I shouldn’t be, but every time I see a movie based on a familiar book, I’m amazed at how similar they are.)
One question. What was the significance of the fact that both Lily Potter and Severus Snape had a doe for a Patronus?
Overall, I thought the movie was a great end to the series. The Prince’s Tale was extremely well done. The scene where Harry sees all the dead in the Great Hall was very moving…I’ve never heard a theater go completely quiet like it did when Fred’s body was shown. I thought the manner in which Remus and Tonks were shown was particularly touching.
I’m not sure I really cared for the way in which the final battle was handled; it seemed sort of wrong for no one to witness it. (I was also a bit perturbed at the loss of the “Severus Snape wasn’t yours” speech.)
Molly’s “Not my daughter, you bitch” got laughter, then applause when Bellatrix disintegrated. There was also some applause when Neville finally got Nagini.
The epilogue scene was fine until Draco was shown…the audience pretty much exploded with laughter.
Also it reveals, if I am remembering things correctly, that Snape was who led Harry to the Sword of Gryfindor (It was a Doe Patronus that led him to it).
I think part of what makes it so confusing is that we tend to think one wand for one wizard. But in that final battle, both wands belonged to Harry–he won their allegiance when he disarmed Draco in Malfoy Manor. It’s a blink and you’ll miss it moment in both the book and movie.
Yep, your Patronus comes out of you and Snape’s is the same as Lily’s. They also show a quick shot of Harry seeing Snape’s Patronus so the audience would realize it was him.
It’s mentioned in one of the books (5?) that a deep, lasting emotion (like grief) can change a person’s patronus. Tonks’ becomes a wolf, IMS. (and it is Snape who comments on it either in the book or in the film-can’t remember).
I like to think that Snape’s patronus was something else and then when Lily died, it changed forever.
I just saw it today and was disappointed. The “King’s Cross” scene was cut so short as to render it almost entirely unnecessary. And the melodrama they attempted to add to the climactic battle ruined some stuff that was really good. Neville’s sappy speech was much less enjoyable than it would have been to hear him defiantly declare “DUMBLEDORE’S ARMY!” It would also have been better to have Harry tell Neville to kill Nagini as he did in the book. Having a mostly silent but drawn-out magical battle between Harry and Voldemort - plus that silly drop off the ledge - was less dramatic than the slowly building tension of Harry’s talking to Voledmort followed by the quick end. Harry’s conversation with the Grey Lady would also have made more sense if it followed the book’s script.
That said, there was a lot to like as well. The Gringotts raid, the Room of Requirement fire, and the defense of Hogwarts were very well done.
Yeah, it would have been good if they followed the book, but Neville is there when Harry says(the second time) “We must kill the snake!” He runs up with the sword drawn, but gets blasted back by Vodlemort. He did know killing the snake was important.
they weren’t able to repair their mistake in harry potter 2 (TCOS.) a rapier is a good thusting weapon and ok for killing the basilisk with a touche to the mouth. the cartoonist made it out to be a sabre but they didn’t follow it. no rapier can hew any snake’s head thicker than 3 inches in diameter.
I know, but the way the book did it, it was like killing Nagini was Neville’s mission. Also, Harry was visibly making preparations to help the others kill Voldemort after his death. In the movie, everyone heard Harry say to kill the snake, not just Neville, and that wasn’t until after he’d returned from death. He didn’t set up anyone to take his place, just left Ron and Hermione to carry it out alone.
However I did know beforehand that Neville would be killing the snake with the sword. Just didn’t know when and how.
I was waiting for it to happen while Neville was giving his speech in the courtyard. It looked like he was hiding the sword inside the hat and was giving his little speech as a distraction so he could wander toward the snake, drop the hat, and chop of the snakes head in front of everyone including Voldemort. I was on the edge of my seat waiting for it to go down that way. But instead it was even more predictable with Nagini chasing Ron & Hermoine around and Neville jumping into the scene from out of nowhere at the last second.
I think this might have been the best of all the Harry Potter movies. **Tracyfish **and I wee arguing over a part in the book, because she’s a giant Potter dork.
yeah, i have to agree with this. it was so fitting for neville to be the one to replace harry, since neville very nearly experienced harry’s fate. i wish they’d set it up that way, since he was the other that the prophecy referred to. i don’t think any of the movies ever mention this.
you know what i thought was the best spcl fx in the movie? the ganite knights coming to life and dropping down onto the court yard. they didn’t look like humans who know how to land lightly but dropped onto the yard like boulders. intimidating.
funniest was that rag-tag group being held at bay by the enchantment near where neville was standing guard. they reminded me of rock and soccer fans. was that intentional or was it just me?
I don’t think that’s right. I think the sword appeared right then because it appears to Gryffindors that are brave. His bravery made it come, just like Potter made it come in movie 2.
Why would thisswordnot be able to cut a snake’s head off? Isn’t a rapier supposed to have one of those fancy hilts?
(Not to mention the fact that, hey it’s a magical sword forged by goblins and infused with basilisk venom. But it cutting a snake’s head off bothered you?)