Has anybody here started their own business before?

Hi

I’m looking for experience from people who have done this before. I’m starting university in the fall and have applied for business at several different ones. Mainly because I don’t know what I want to do really, so I figure business gives me the most options, since everything leads to business eventually right? :wink:

However I am also interested in one day starting my own business from this, anybody have any stories to tell? successes? failures? How hard is it to really start up a business? Is there a limit to what your business can be?

Anyone with some time to spare is greatly appreciated thanks all!:cool:

You have to really know the industry you are getting in to.

Don’t try to start a business just out of college - go and work in the industry for awhile; learn it on someone else’s dime.

Once you become good at something, then give it a try “on your own.” You should have 6-12 months of living money saved up, in addition to the cash you’ll need for supplies, etc.

Remember you will need to hire an accountant, a lawyer, etc. You will also need health insurance, liability insurance, etc. There is of course no limit!

The best part of having my own business is that I can set my own hours - I get to work whichever 12 hours per day I want!

Some extra advice:

  • Do not start a company with any of your close friends. Don’t. Everybody says this, nobody beleives it. Not a 100% failure rate, but pretty high. I don’t recommend it.
  • Do not assume that you always know better. Sometimes you do, sometimes you don’t. If somebody offers you help, at least hear them out. They might be a bloodsucking scumbag, but at least listen to them initially.
  • You will be poor for a while. 6-12 months might be a conservative estimate for amount of living money saved up. Do not assume that some deep-pocketed bank, VC firm, or rich uncle will finance your little venture if you don’t know what you’re doing, don’t have things planned out, and don’t have anything even remotely resembling a product to sell. It can happen, but it’s a darn big risk to take. And it’s exceedingly rare these days.

Can you tell that my experience was largely negative and that I didn’t pay attention when people told me these things before? :slight_smile:

I’ve done a few. NBIT33 makes a good point. I worked for an oil company for nine years after college before I started my own company, learning all I could about the business while my employer nurtured me. One big subject you want to devote some study to is raising capital - so many businesses limp along forever undercapitalized.

While there’ve been various other ventures, I’ll only address one other. During college I owned and operated a taxicab. It was a relatively low stakes way to get a business education. While it didn’t involve large amounts of money, it was of vital importance to me. It paid for college and fed and housed me, while also affording me the freedom to allocate my time as needed to address the rest of my life (school, in particular) that comes with being the owner of the business. Also, and just as importantly, the experience made me learn about taxes, capitalization, depreciation, business organization, payroll taxes, insurance, etc.

Good luck!

Don’t do anything that doesn’t have the capability to produce an unusually large amount of profit.

My bro and i started a lawn maintenance company 2 years ago and we routinely make $50-60 an hour. We will continue to make that with as many lawns as we can get.

It’s just a little thing he does on the side: at least $3100 revenue a month during summer, working 10 hours a week by himself, 4 hours with me, very little costs.

Ditto on several months of income set aside…

Also, I found a VERY helpful book that went step by step through all the necessary steps for the set up and operation for
almost any type of business, whether sole proprietorship or a corporation. It covers all the licensing requirements, where to get them, etc.

Its called: Building a Profitable Business by Straughn & Chickadel

I actually saw a copy recently at the local Kinko’s…

Hope that helps!

Like the others said, I’d like to reinforce some points.

*don’t start a biz with your friends as partners, or employees. It’s very risky. What happens when your friends don’t work as hard as you need them to? Do you sack them? Sack your friends? Big ask! Most people will let the company limp along, and make excuses, when really, it’s clear they need to let their friends go, and employ new people. It’s better if you never put yourself in this position if you can possibly help it. Accept help from friends, maybe even pay them for specific tasks… but don’t employ them.

  • Working for someone else to learn the ropes for at least 12 months is a great idea. Of course, you learn industry specific things, but you’ll also learn basic but often un-taught things, like dealing with debtors and creditors, accounting, “check is in the mail” mentality, employment issues, and a million other tiny things that you’d never think of on your own. Watch every single thing your employer does, then make your own decision on if it was a good idea or not (but don’t tell him! :)). It’s not essential that you work in the same industry as your chosen area, as the principles are the same everywhere, but obviously it’s helpful.

What other people said:

Don’t do anything that doesn’t have the capability to produce an unusually large amount of profit.

In theory, this is a good idea, but in practise, not many people make a killing on everything they do - or even most things. There will be high paying jobs, and low paying ones, and ones you make a loss on. Of course, you want to get as many of the high paying ones as possible, but the reality is, as soon as someone perceives you are making too much money, they’ll start (or change) their own biz to do the same thing for cheaper.

The other tact - depending on what you biz is exactly - is to produce something that multiplies out easily, and sell lots of them, making a small profit on lots of items, rather than large amounts of profit on a few. That’s a pretty basic concept, but not thought about a lot.

For example, if you go to a printing company to get some biz cards printed up, you might notice it’s $50 for 250 cards, and $58 for 500 cards. $8 for 250 more cards?! This is because, they incur their expenses in setting up the press to print your cards in the first place (artwork, bormides, films, etc), not the actual printing of cards themselves. The actual paper and ink to print your cards on is dirt cheap. In fact, the printing company I know only ever prints in batches of 1000, and if I only want 500 cards, they just throw the other 500 cards out. Sounds crazy, but it’s more efficient in their case you put card in that suits 1000 cards.

The best part of having my own business is that I can set my own hours - I get to work whichever 12 hours per day I want!

Sure, in an ideal world, but usually, your hours are dictated by the hours your suppliers and customers keep. Unless you do something like computer programming or pottery, I think you’ll find yourself doing something like eight hours a day, 10 to 6, or something similar. Of course, you can take breaks, and start late, finish early, and so on, and maybe that’s what NBIT33 meant.

With regards to money… I think having enough saved up to live off for 12 months is pure fantasy (regardless of how useful it might be). I guess it depends on your circumstances and lifestyle. I started my biz while I had a full time job in another industry, and it was basically a hobby that grew into a part time job, and from there into a full time job. For a while I was doing two full time jobs, and both suffered, but it meant I was able to quit my old job, and run my own biz from home, and not have a dip in income. That was cool, and in hindsight, worth it (tho damn hard work).

I’d recommend starting to work on your biz well before you quite your learning job. Setting up things like bank accounts, accounts, law issues, biz registration, and so on can take two months for someone not skilled, and while that’s going on, you’ll not be making much money, so you’d want to have some kinda income.

I was lucky when a friend recommended an accountant for me, who was more of a business advisor, in a way. He helped me set up my biz in the correct legal way, and made sure all sorts of obligation were met (workers insurance, taxes, fees, dozens of other things that I had no idea about), leaving me to do what I knew best - photographing naked people. :slight_smile: Good luck if you can find someone like that!

Lastly, there are lotsa people out there who can help (including ppl here on the SDMB). Like others have said, listen to as many ops as you can, and then make your decision.

Good luck.

it depends if you are wanting to create your own business selling your own product or if you want to sell someone else’s product such as a car lot for ford, you must first buy the franchise from ford.

not much help but it puts a new look at it

Do NOT buy one of those turn-key business that you run from your home, no matter how good the damned tape makes it sound. If the business were that good they’d do it themselves instead of selling it to jerks like me…er…you!

And whatever you do, do NOT finance any business venture with your own money. If you can’t get a bank to back you, there’s a reason.

This is all speculation on my part, of course. :rolleyes:

Another reiteration on the “no friends or family” bit. My buddy and I had been told that exact thing several times while we were putting together our business.

We figured, hey, we’ll be different. We’re too good of friends to let that happen.

Nope. Two and a half years later, there was major arguing over costs, money, income, how the place was run, petty arguing over who “owned” the biz, etcetera and so forth.

We had no paperwork or contract determining who got what in the event of a split, or what was required of each partner, so I took my equipment and walked. The place tanked completely within three months.

As for setting your own hours? :smiley:

As NBIT33 noted, you just get to pick which 12 hours you get to work.

The beauty of working for someone else is that, when five O’clock rolls around, you can forget the job, go home and enjoy yourself. (Okay, mostly, but work with me here.)

Me, a self-employed sole proprietorship, I get up, punch the button on the PC, and I’m at work.

Sure, I can take lunch whenever I feel like it, but even when I’m eating, I’m “at work”. You find you never really get to relax.

I quit my last job because my boss was an asshole. Now that I work for myself, my boss is still an asshole, but at least I respect him. :smiley:

sstaurus,

In February of last year, the company I’d given four years of my life to sacked me in their latest round of downsizing. They claimed there wasn’t any work for me (they’re an IT solutions provider, I am a network admin). They paid me out 7 weeks of accrued leave plus two weeks severence pay.

In a moment of insanity, I decided to start my own business.

I say insanity because I had not planned, prepared or even thought about things like a business plan or finding clients or whatever.

The first month or so was really hard. I was learning all the stuff you need to know about running a business - book-keeping, tax regulations, keeping a VERY tight budget, finding clients, keeping clients etc.

I had a very tight time-line; I’d budgeted so that I could survive for three months before I’d be broke. Hence I had a very specific goal: to have enough sustainable business built up within three months.

I got work here and there, but the problem I had was that being a nerdy geeky type, my sales skills were not what they could be. Even so, a few of my previous employer’s clients tracked me down and wanted me to do the work for them. Who am I to complain?

After a couple months of sporadic work, I got a nice contract. A VERY nice contract. I had work starting to come out of orifices I never even knew I had. I had enough work to justify taking on an employee. I was looking at the government’s traineeship programs to see if I could get myself a junior to take on extra work.

Then, at the end of November, I had a massive grand mal seizure. Long story short, it meant I wasn’t allowed to drive. Being that driving is about 50% of my work, it meant I couldn’t service my clients. I lost the big contract and I lost all my other clients. I ended up having to pass my clients on to another business (a friend of mine is in a similar line of work). I had a sizeable amount of money saved prior to this incident (enough for a deposit on a house). Now it is ALL gone.

Ironically, just a few weeks before, I’d been talking to an insurance broker about getting cover for loss of income from illness, injury etc. I hadn’t been able to make an appointment to see them because I was so busy I literally had no time for it.

It’s been four months since I’ve had any meaningful work. This Friday just gone, I got the goahead from my neurologist to drive. So now I have a difficult decision to make - do I go through all the poverty and heartache of starting a business from the ground up, AGAIN… or do I just go and find another dead-end, meaningless job somewhere?

I guess the moral of the story here is that you have to plan for the worst possible scenarios. If you’re sick for a prolonged period of time, will your business collapse? Will you lose your clients? Have you saved enough money to survive on when business is slow? Do you really have the skills to run your own business?

I was lucky in many ways. I hit the ground running with a reasonable amount of money behind me. I got a really good contract. I was able to get clients pretty much straight away as they defected from my old employer. I was able to save a lot of money.

Don’t get caught out mate. Plan, plan and plan some more. Because tomorrow it could all be gone, and then where will you be?

Max :slight_smile:

Oh, I should add, before it sounds like a big tale of doom and gloom… running your own business is a terrifically rewarding experience. There’s the freedom of keeping your own hours (and yes, sometimes it is 18-hour days), the freedom of defining the direction of your business, the type of client you want, the type of work you want to do. There is the other matter, which is that you get to keep all the profits :wink: For all the hard work and hard times that might come with it, starting my own business was the best thing I ever did. Circumstances notwithstanding, I wouldn’t change a thing.

Max :slight_smile:

Thanks for the advice everyone. Some things I thought of, and lots I hadn’t thought of. Generally I’m getting the idea it’s best to go and work for someone else after school for a few years, and then see what’s up then. I could only see myself working for someone else if it was something I enjoyed (ie a company I enjoyed), otherwise I figure I’ll have to go and start my own company I’ll enjoy :slight_smile:

thanks again!