Should’ve cut the tip off the strawberry instead.
Now I have this image of a muppet leopard named Jerry Mander who talks about gentrifying Sesame Street (and wants to arrest Oscar for vagrancy). Every time Ernie comes around he aggressively licks his face.
On a very special episode the grownups gently try to explain to Elmo why he shouldn’t be falling for Jerry’s tactics.
That episode is sponsored by the letter Q.
Some enjoyable pushback. Nice to see them finally come out and confirm matters…
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/election-officials-rebut-claims-republican-led-arizona-review-trumps-2020-loss-2022-01-05/
Back to the OP, were any findings anywhere even moderately convincing as evidence of fraud?
Would ‘no’ work for you? It didn’t for Trump.
Did you read the thread that answered in detail the question you asked in the OP?
Because the answer is still “no”.
Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, may have committed voter fraud. There’s a count of one, but it’s in the wrong direction for this thread.
Well, let me ask you this; has Fox News run a huge, multi-part expose on the solid evidence of voter fraud? No, because there isn’t any.
If there was honest-to-God evidence the 2020 election has been stolen, trust me, this isn’t a question you’d have to ask on an obscure message board. You’d know ALL about it. Even if you believe the “mainstream media” would deliberately ignore it, Fox and other conservative outlets and papers would be running the story nonstop until CNN and the like really had no choice but to run it too. Everyone would know the major actors and the details; it’d be water cooler conversation in every workplace. We’d already have 25 threads about it. It’d be as big a story in the USA as the Ukraine War.
<sarcasm=ON> False in every way! People still believe the election was stolen, and people are still saying it was stolen, so it must have been stolen. Someone I like said something I want to hear - I don’t want to hear or read stuff I may disagree with. End of discussion.<sarcasm=OFF>
Only MyPillow Man’s packets have come close to proving evidence of fraud.
Many people are telling Faux News that the election was stolen. The best people, Top men. Who are these people? Really the best, amazing, patriots. [I believe completely without evidence that all Fox lawyers have severe drinking problems]
I did have a veteran come up to me once and he said, with tears in his eyes, “Sir, the election was stolen.”
There were four people in The Villages, FL (big retirement community) who voted twice, once in Florida and once in whatever state they retired from and still own a house in. Pretty sure they were all Republicans, so they’re also in the wrong direction.
These double voters were likely discovered through the Electronic Registration Information Center (ERIC), which gets voter info from about 30 member states plus other sources like Social Security and helps those states keep their voting records up to date by weeding out people who move to another state or die. Shortly after I heard about the four voters, I heard there’s a campaign in rightwing social media to get states to withdraw from ERIC.
I think Florida will withdraw, but no worries. They now will have a spiffy new Election Police, which when not busy intimidating Blacks from voting, will catch these retiree double voters. I’m sure of it.
Yes. I have no doubt they will be right on those white retirees voting shenanigans.
It is ironic (or, maybe not ironic at all), that right wing social media types are looking for states to get out of the system that actually did find some negligible number of illegal votes, when right wingers are pushing for new laws that will uncover nothing, but will make it harder for poor people and minorities to vote.
I posted this in another thread, but it’s more relevant here:
I went to a luncheon last week where the guest speaker was the local supervisor of elections. It’s a Republican district, and he said twice that he was a “Reagan Republican”.
The rest of the speech, however, was blasting the insane bullshit that he has faced from the right wing. He recounted death threats he’d received, and the racial slurs his chief assistant has endured. He specifically called out the misinformation from Fox News, and then asserted that he had become an expert at debunking election fraud myths.
A place has “more votes than registered voters”? They were comparing 2020 votes with 2016 voter rolls.
People were counting mail in ballots that had never been folded?
He demonstrated how they often received back torn or stained ballots, and had to recreate them on clean ballots so that they could be counted.
Vote totals changed after the polls closed?
He explained (similar to discussions here) how mail in ballots were being counted in the days after the election, and because of Trump’s rhetoric they were heavily democratic, which means the changes were consistent with expectations.
By the end, he was exasperated. Trump won this district, yet he’s still being bombarded with hostility, such as the mass duplicate emailing he sometimes gets.
This is in Florida, by the way. Ground zero for the crazy, I’m afraid.
And with all that bullshit, he’ll still stick with the crazy.
Stranger
What do you mean? Was there a point here? Can you copy and paste a paragraph?
I think you mean this story:
Debra Meadows, the wife of former congressman and Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, signed voter forms attesting she resided at a Macon County, North Carolina, mobile home that reports indicate the couple never lived in.
On registration forms, both Debra and Mark Meadows indicated their residency at the Scaly Mountain mobile home would begin September 20, 2020 – one day after their voter registration forms were dated.
Debra Meadows - “But I looked at it on Google Maps, It’s a valid address”
Reading the Dope I get the impression that the only voter fraud that exists come from Republicans. But I assumed that that was largely due to selection bias. That dopers gleefully to point out Republican hypocrisy but ignore malfeasance of their own party. But it turns out, nope, the Republicans really are the only ones committing fraud.
The Heritage Foundation, the conservative think tank, maintains a public database of ballot-fraud cases. A review of the database reveals an astonishing fact: In every listed indictment and conviction for voter fraud or other malfeasance in connection with the 2020 presidential general election, when the culprit’s political affiliation is known he or she turns out to be a Republican or “unabashed conservative.”