When you call him an empty suit, stupid and playing out the race card, you have shown what you are. That is why nobody takes you seriously. That, and the fact this is an old and stupid idea that has been disproved over and over. Yet you persist that he should do it again. He should tell you to blow it out your ass. There is no proof possible when your ridiculous opinions are emotionally held.
I did not even get started, look at any big USA city today and political crimes abound from bribes, to glad handing, lies, and you name it.
Hawaii was a USA military base in WW2 and the territory civil government was not worth shit along with law enforcement. Capitalism of the worst kind prevailed and anything for a dollar ruled the day.
After the war, lacking any civil government worth spit, any one could be a Hawaiian citizen for a few dollars, or having a friend in government office. Look at the forms I posted— you did not even have to show up, mail in the information.
You think people were willing to pay for that service to be a USA citizen—OH YEAH— look at Mexico and the USA—nothing has changed.
OH the USA is SOOO righteous—ha ha ha. We are righteous all right when get all these crooks, scams, and lying cheats under our foot and smash them like a bug.
Man has not changed, look at Chicago and Blago. You thing Hawaii was any different—get real.
The USA wanted to do the same thing to Cuba, as Hawaii, but Castro would not take the bait, and the Russian step into play.
I think I’m off topic here. The moderators are going to yell at me again for being bad, so I had better stop.
Don
Take Des Moines, Iowa, for example.
I’m very near Obama’s age and an American. I traveled to Pakistan in my 20’s. We were friendly with them. No visa was required for Americans.
OK, so, no idea. Strike one.
- At what point in the process of running for President must this be done?
Why? As you just said a moment ago, you haven’t a clue to whom such documents might have to be presented to legally run for President. Strike two.
- Was this done for Presidents Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton and Bush 43?
Why not? How do you know any of them were born in the United States? Anyway, direct answer is no idea. Strike three.
Based on the proven inaccuracy of many of your other assumptions, I will give that all the consideration it is due.
Sorry, at this point I think I’ve heard pretty much every argument you are likely to make and see nothing whatsoever that suggests Obama was not born in Hawaii. You are of course welcome to flog this expired equine as long as you want. Goodbye.
look at it! Look at the soil!
N.B.: It is not his to “release.”
Don123, let me get this straight. You think that capitalism of the worst sort prevailed at the time of Obama’s birth. Because of this terrible capitalism, Obama was allowed to get a fake birth certificate, so that 47 years later he could be elected President, where he is actually a socialist (or so Birthers claim).
Well, those are some of his words. Here are some more:
Hmmm . . . That is a puzzler . . . Who could be to blame for that? Who’s behind both capitalism and Communism? It’s on the tip of my . . .
An aside: Dr. Chiyome Fukino is most definitely NOT a “he.”
So it’s not Obama you have a problem with, per se, but America itself.
The biggest obstacle to your question is that the passport records of families, and employees, directly related to the president are now sealed by the State Department, as I have read, under National Security.
Also, for some reason the government of Kenya, has sealed any information (including passport data) of anything relating to Obama. I would like to say that Biden’s trip to Kenya in the last two weeks to give Kenya about 350 million for birth control is to pay off people to keep those records sealed. Of course we know the 350 million will never go toward birth control as it is handed over to one of the most corrupted governments on this earth.
More conspiracy theories? Yes, with facts woven in as speculation. That is the problem when the public is spit on by presidents by their BS and his lying team, and they learn how to fraud to get elected, and keep us voters in the dark by withholding the facts; all for the good of the country. Go figure that out and you get a prize.
Don
Other than “Barack Obama was born,” I don’t think you’ve posted a fact yet. Most of the assertions you’ve made have been wrong, including your recent statement that presidential candidates need to present birth certificates.
I think you’ve got that backwards.
Wait a sec, what’s your source on that?
Please post a link where we can review these sections. If you want me (or any of us) to take you seriously provide links that support your position. Citing an article by a birther is NOT proof. If the author of this article wrote this, then it means they had access to these sections and thus can provide a link, or a photo copy of the statutes. Or will you be like Susanann and post items without support? The decision I suppose is yours, but your lack of posting reviewable data does speak volumes about your intent.
An online search for them produces nothing except more references to birther sites. Hell I could post that section 57-10 contradicts Section 57-8 & 9 and without the document how can anyone prove or disprove it. The ball is in your court my friend.
Indeed. And he doesn’t even address the Finn Amendment. How can you take anyone seriously when he’s ignorant of the Finn Amendment? Why, without the Finn Amendment, there’d be chaos!
It’s worth noting that even if one did prove that it was possible to get a Hawaii birth certificate in 1961 without being born in the US–and that has most certainly not been proven–it’s a long way from saying that it didhappen like that.
Those who believe that Obama was born outside the US have to believe it despite the fact that 1.) there’s no evidence for it; 2.) there is considerable evidence to the contrary; and 3.) maintaining such a fiction would require a massive and thus far completely airtight conspiracy involving dozens if not hundreds of people, set into motion 50 years ago by an 18-year-old pregnant girl for no discernible reason.
I’ve never been clear about whether Obama really could release the sort of super duper birth certificate the birthers keep asking for–but even if he could, why would he? It wouldn’t put anything to rest; anyone who can be convinced has already been convinced. Meanwhile, every time the birthers open their mouths–and every time more sensible Republicans stand by silently–it makes Obama look better.
I think all birthers should have to present a “vault copy” of their kid’s birth certificate when they sign him up for soccer. Those official BCs issued by the state are apparently not worth the paper they’re printed on, so why should we trust it to tell us your kid is under 12?
I grant that is my speculation with good reasoning. Did someone, or foreign country have an over all plan for Obama? Your guess. I do not believe in gods and preordained destiny. Was obama a pick of the litter to be groomed? OR did he take advantage of opportunities that that fell in his path? Your guess. It sounds like your are the one that believes in gods, as you apply events 40 years after they happen to destiny, as if there is some master plan–NOT I.
Though I’m monetarily filthy rich using freedoms and capitalism as tools, there is a dark side to capitalism and you know it.
What it seems you are trying to do is set up an impossible master plan, and then close with that is not possible, so every thing is clean with Obama. Good luck.
when I was selling mangoes in Florida to colored town at age six, pulling my wagons filled with fruit for sale door to door to poor blacks, did I realize that I would have over a million bucks cash before I was 27, all by my own hard earned work—after taxes? I did not have a clue. It was one day at a time. I’m not bragging, though I have the rights, but I do have the experience that shapes my opinions. I Doubt obama had any idea what he was up to before age 12.
NO ONE loves prosperity more than I, and I have NO problem with Obama being wealthy and exploiting opportunities that come along just as I did. But I will NOT tolerate GD bullshit, lies, and fraud–not from any that claims power over me.
I’m not trying to capture the moral high ground to be persuasive-- I’m a stinking racist, and my loyalty is to my white kind. Though there are some blacks I have respect for, I count them winners and a pride to their race by high standards; Obama is not one of them.
Look, had obama said up front: my paperwork as to being a natural born citizen is a mess. The laws of Hawaii were loose at the time I was born, and some what idiotic by today’s standards. I was adopted, traveled over seas, and made it back to the USA as an adult. I present to you the voting public what I have, what the records shows, here are all the originals, and you decide if I’m qualified to be President. I believe my natural born citizenship is close enough, and I’m going for the presidency.
I may have voted for him, as I understand the state of affairs of Hawaii at the time. To give Obama tolerance “after the fact” of his gross bull shit and blatant lies does not cut it. To say that was his “intent” all along is nothing but blind speculation based on propaganda, wishful thinking at most, as you have NO facts to back it up.
Instead of a forth right person of smarts, all I have is this boot legger, carpet bagger, that is pissing on my back and telling me it’s raining—NO deal.
But the topic is, do you know for fact that Obama was born in Hawaii? OK, how do you know, as everything else is speculation and opinions.
Don