I hear the ACLU do stuff like wanting the City of Los Angelos to remove the cross off their seal or Sueing a school because it held a Christmas pagent or protecting the rights of the KKK to march.
Any counterexamples?
Good grief, good grief…
One of an immense number of examples:
So how come CHICK and other ultra conservative christian groups hate ACLU ? 
That website was informative.
I’d like to hear Bill O’Reilly’s take on that very question.
Basically because many Christians aren’t really interested in religious freedom, or at least not for anyone other than themselves. Some people feel that because they subscribe to a majority belief, that they should be “free” to express those beliefs wherever and however they want, including mandating them in public schools and other things our Constitution sorta frowns upon.
From The ACLU’s Most Important
U.S. Supreme Court Victories:
1943 West Virginia v. Barnette A groundbreaking decision, made more
resonant by its issuance in wartime. The Court championed religious
liberty with its holding that a state could not force Jehovah’s Witness
children to salute the American flag.
Because the ACLU also resists things like prayer in schools and other issues that Christians want to see enacted. The ACLU gets much more notoriety for working to remove the Ten Commandments from governmental buildings than for issues where they stood up for Christians’ rights.
The problem with the ACLU is that they stand up for anyone’s rights. This means they will invariably support people you don’t like. And when they support people you don’t like (whatever your politics), the news is quickly spread by you and others who are indignant about it. Whereas things that support your politics will get a nod from you (again, whoever you are), but you’re less likely to spread the word.
The question’s well answered now, but I reject the OP’s premise that the ACLU isn’t protecting the rights of Christians when it sues on behalf of atheists or the KKK. The ACLU is protecting the rights of all Americans when it pursues these actions, and that includes the majority of Americans who are Christians.
–Cliffy
Inject some into the last clause of that first sentence. And some Christians cannot get it through their heads that the same First Amendment that protects their right to worship as they please protects others’ rights not to. So you get stuff like “freedom of religion, not freedom from religion” or “But that prayer’s not sectarian; how come everybody can’t support it?”
I’m a devout Christian who dearly wishes that every Doper would find God and decide to follow Him. And I strongly support the ACLU in defending their right to choose whether or not to do that,
They can get it through their heads. They just draw the lines between permissible displays of religion and unpermissible ones differently than you do.
I don’t see this as a problem at all. They defend groups like the KKK and other obnoxious fucks, and as long as they’re following constitutional law, I applaud it. Would it be better if some of these groups were taken out by a bout of the plague? Sure! But the groups the ACLU defends deserve to be defended.
Not wanting to lower the tone of an interesting and informative thread, but this just sounds wrong!!
She wanted to wear the discreet garb of an observant, conservative muslim. They thought it was too much clothing for the pool area. At least that’s how I remember it.
Phew!! I must drag my mind out of the gutter 
Yeah…somehow, I don’t think the Muslims for Nudity movement caught on in the U.S. 
Including gun owners?
Essentially the United States is a secular democracy. Some Christians, including Jack Chick and Bill O’Reilly, believe that it should be theocracy, or at least partially theocratic. Hence they hate any group that stands for secular democracy, including the ACLU.
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IOnluding gun owners?[\quote]
Yup. If anyone ever passes a law making it illegal for gun owners to speak their minds, print a newspaper, worship as they choose, petition the government or get a speedy trial by jury, the ACLU will fight to knock it down. I guarantee it.
Perhaps, but I hear precious little from the Religious Right about drawing lines and a great deal of absolutism, victim playing, outrageous accusations and poorly -concealed stealth advocacy for a Christian theocracy.
This is the only thing about the ACLU that has ever bothered me. They stand up for all the civil rights in the constitution … except for the right to bear arms.
But in all fairness, the NRA does such an outstanding job in that arena, they don’t really need the ACLU’s help.
In case you’re interested, here’s the ACLU’s statement on the issue.