The thing is, y’all are pushing for impeachment without any evidence that Trump conspired with Russia to undermine the elections.
It is, in fact, a partisan thing. Because you go on to say -
Exactly. You are hoping for impeachment because you don’t like Trump’s policies, and you would feel the same about any conservative President. So it is partisan, and that’s why you are pushing for impeachment. Not because of any evidence of collusion or law-breaking - you don’t have any.
Philip II of Macedon sent a message to the Spartans sometime around 350 BC, saying that the Spartans had better surrender to him, because if he conquered them, he would kill all their men, enslave their women, and burn their city to the ground.
The Spartans sent back a reply that was one word long.
I don’t think we’re actually disagreeing on substance here, we’re just disagreeing with probability. I think a 50% chance that the FBI and others have or will have a death blow against this administration is about right.
I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, Shodan, and assume that you read through k9bfriender’s post so quickly that you missed the point entirely, and only just happened to slice out of the quote the statements that directly contradict your thesis.
The fact that Trump is uniquely unqualified to be President is not a partisan idea. Notable non-Democrats who opposed his election include (short list)
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[li]Condoleezza Rice[/li][li]Colin Powell[/li][li]Ross Douthat[/li][li]George Will[/li][li]Richard Armitage[/li][li]Ari Fleischer[/li][li]Hank Paulson[/li][li]Michael Chertoff[/li][li]Michael Hayden[/li][li]John Negroponte[/li][li]Tom Ridge[/li][li]George P. Shultz[/li][li]Paul Wolfowitz[/li][li]Robert Gates[/li][li]Michael Chertoff[/li][li]Michael Medved and [/li][li]John Yoo[/li][/ul]
The fact that he is uniquely unfit is not an impeachable offense. The fact that he is using his office to enrich himself and his family is. If he is found to have conspired with Russia to influence the election, that is also.
I am sorry that (many) Republicans in Congress will not do the right thing until it is politically expedient for them. At minimum, they ought not to be obstructing the investigation into the Trump Campaign’s ties to Russia. I wish they were better than that.
[Blazing Saddles]Mel Brooks as Boss: Hey, you said Michael Chertoff twice. Barrett Bonden as Job Applicant: I *like *Michael Chertoff !!
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You accused k9bfriender of disliking Trump for partisan reasons. I offered you a plate of people (including Michael Chertoff twice!) who dislike Trump for the same reasons k9bfriender offered and who could not be reasonably accused of being partisan in this instance.
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… no person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under [the United States], shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office or Title of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.
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Actually I pointed out that she was calling for impeachment on partisan grounds. I don’t care how many times you mention Michael Chertoff - he isn’t calling for impeachment AFAIK.
I asked for something specific. What is your evidence that Trump, while President, accepted a present from some foreign Prince? TIA.
You have successfully argued that I did not say something that I did not say. Well done.
You did, and I answered your question precisely. To refresh your memory:
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The activities that have been identified (so far) as potential violations of the foreign emoluments clause include receiving payments from foreign entities including those from patrons at Trump hotels and golf courses; loans for his office buildings from certain banks controlled by foreign governments; leases with tenants like the Abu Dhabi tourism office; and 39 trademarks from China.
I stand corrected (although it might be argued that it was an advance/consideration to bind Trump to post-inauguration favors). Failing that, impeach him for the misdemeanor health code violation of not washing the piss off until after he became president.
The VP is much more experienced in politics and is just as or more extreme than Trump on social and environmental issues, so I fear that if Trump were to be removed, it would be out of the frying pan and into the fire, so it is convenient to keep him in place, but distract him with impeachment, let him keep fumbling on major goals, and use the publicity to gather votes for the next mid-terms and the next presidential election.
