Leaffan you need to read last year’s incident.
This was played out last year and jsgoddess put up with a lot to be a nice neighbor.
They’re renting the bobcat right? Call a friend or something and block em in.
I don’t see that huge of a difference. Both taking down a fence and moving equipment through your yard, and scratching your car, are intentional acts that a reasonable person should expect will likely result in unwelcomed damage to another’s property.
When you add in that this is the second time they have done something similar, I think they deserve little benefit of the doubt. The last time they said they “didn’t think js would mind.” Well, she informed them in no uncertain terms that she DID in fact mind, and it doesn’t seem to have affected their behavior in the least. IMO their behavior took this situation out of the realm of things that js ought to seek to amicably resolve.
I strongly suspect that yours is the minority view, Leaffan. I don’t know where you live, and how much property you and your neighbors have, but these neighbors should have at least asked first.
Just a second to the Call the Police right now.
Nip it, Nip it in the Bud right now.
I’d be curious as to whether that bobcat can swim.
Jsgoddess, you have been mistaken for a doormat. Call the cops, file a report, then call an attorney to begin your civil suit. The mistake will not be repeated again next year.
Well, I certainly can see how it was rude of them to do this twice without asking. I certainly wouldn’t do it once without asking. But they seem to have made restitution the first time around, and really I honestly would go have a beer with them and talk. Life is short; it’s not worth getting upset over.
Don’t get mad at me in here just because I’d rather solve this as adults, and not through litigation.
It’s more likely something like this. They do get bigger.
http://www.bobcatofmadison.com/equip/photos.html?attname=LB_B300D&item=7566&photo=3&mp=3
I think someone who drags a bunch of heavy machinery through someone else’s yard, destroying everything in their path is either to stupid or too much of an asshole to be reasoned with.
Leffan, the friendly discussion should occur before a fence is taken down without permission. What if there are children visiting or pets loose in the yard? The fence may be there for a reason. I co-operate with neighbors in any way I can, but there is no way that I would not be pissed off if they took my fence down without discussing it first. It is not some rickety old thing that can just be nailed back up again.
It’s one Bobcat. With rubber tires. And a section of fence. Geesh. 
I’ll admit the thought of a drinking beer while operating heavy machinery does sound fun, not smart, but fun.
Calling the cops is a far cry short of litigation. Even if it came to litigation, some crazy folks might believe litigation is an appropriate way for adults to resolve some disputes. Others might even consider respect for their neighbors’ property rights downright civilized.
Your “let’s discuss this over a beer” approach might be a good one if there were no history between the parties, or depending on the particular relations between the parties. But when the history has one party repeatedly doing something they darn well know the other doesn’t like, well, I would personally choose other folk to drink with. Yeah, discussion/negotiation is a fine alternative to litigation, and should generally precede it. But prior discussion earned jsa repeat of the same unwanted behavior. How many times would you be willing to bend over and ask for some more?
In the previous thread, you said your brother-in-law was a city code enforcer, and part of the permit process was to demonstrate a way to get equipment in and out of the job site. Is this still the case?
It wasn’t only that, but looking over the previous thread they stated that they didn’t think she would notice let alone mind. These are some seriously screwed up people IMO. Add me to the chorus that says this needs to be resolved by a call to the local PD.
This bears repeating. I had some kids leave my gate open once and my dog got out. Since the gate in question is almost never used, I had no reason to think my dog was out until he’d been gone for quite some time. All they had to do was tell me that their ball went into my yard and I’d have tossed it back, as it turned out I spent the best part of the day looking for my dog. Oh, no big deal, you got your dog back and closed the gate. Yeah, that’s exactly how it went down. :rollfuckingeyes:
Imagine how surprised I’d have been if I went out and realized that nobody had left the gate open, but had taken the fence down. Surprised and pissed. Very pissed.
I don’t mind sharing a beer with my neighbor. This doesn’t mean he has permission to just come on in any time day or night and help himself out of my fridge. Now if we are talking in the yard and he asks if he can hit my fridge for a brew, I’d say go right ahead, but I wouldn’t expect him to take that as an open invitation to my fridge at all times.
I’m no expert, but my long-term understanding has been that the “right to exclude” was a pretty fundamental aspect of property ownership - at least under US and English common law. It would surprise me to learn the same were not true for Canuckistan.
Just because Leaffan might not be particularly interested in that aspect of property ownership, does not render it unreasonable for the rest of society to arrange itself in manners that respect it.
You know, Leaffan, your posts in this thread are a little bothersome. Can we just say that different people are bothered by different things?
I am a fairly laid-back person and don’t ask for much. One of the things I ask for is to have to interact with my IRL neighbors as little as possible. I have an extremely highly developed sense of privacy and don’t like people who live right next to me to know anything about me.
This would drive little old laid-back me bonkers. Not only do I have to deal with them, but they chose to make it in such a negative way? Aaiii.
It’s nice that you’re so noble that it doesn’t bother you, but it obviously bothers the OP, and the majority of the posters. And litigation is the adult way to deal with things. The non-adult way is to go over there with a baseball bat. 
I’m going to have to go ahead and join the rest of the world - your views on how your neighbours can abuse your property are not really shared by many other people, leaffan. Your attitude is not easy-going; it’s comatose.
I’m very sorry to hear that your neighbours are acting like such dicks, jsgoddess. I most recently worked at a company that rented out bobcats; preventing them from returning the bobcat will indeed be something that gets their attention, because those suckers aren’t cheap to rent (ours were rented for ballpark figure $200 per day), and they will be getting charged for every hour it is out. I would make it my business to find a way to keep them from running it back out through your yard, and call the police for the destruction of your property. You just can’t do what your neighbours keep doing. If they need better access to their back yard, they need to find a way that doesn’t involve your property.
lieu, if you really wanted to mess them up badly, all you have to do is tip a bobcat over. A customer did this while I was working with the rental company, and it is a multi-thousand dollar repair when that happens. I processed the invoices. 