Have a professor from Iran. Should I say anything?

I have a professor that is originally from Iran, according to his readily available CV. He has never mentioned his nationality, or anything about his personal life. Nonetheless, I have an urge to tell him that I wish only the best for his country’s citizens. But I’m afraid that he might take it the wrong way, or at best be completely apathetic. As I mentioned, I know nothing about his current connections to Iran, only that he got a bachelor’s degree from there in 1973.

I know that keeping my mouth shut would hurt no one, but I like this guy and I do genuinely wish only the best for his country.

Your suggestions and opinions are appreciated.

I’m not sure whether you are a colleague or a student and if you are a student, how much ‘chat’ time you get with your professors.

Perhaps start with a somewhat neutral statement, e.g. ‘I’ve seen a lot in the media about the recent elections in Iran,’ and gauge his reaction before going any further.

I see no downside to expressing concern! We have a family on our street from Iran and I’ve been anticipating talking to them if I see them outside, to express concern and find out what they think.

You’re motivated because you care about this person. I think that’s always welcome.

I recently made friends with an Iranian and she’s more than eager to talk about it. Hey, it’s current news from her homeland.

Go ahead and broach the subject.

Perhaps you might simply observe that you hope that his hatred for America will not adversely affect your grade! :wink:

Seriously, nothing wrong with expressing a little human concern to a prof. I’d say it would be extremely unlikely he would react in any way unpleasantly to a relatively simple statement along the lines of: “Professor X - I happened to notice on your CV that you were from Iran, and I wanted to let you know that I truly wish only the best for that country’s citizens.”

You might want to avoid calling it “his” country, as he may be a naturalized American. But chances are he has friends/relatives there. Be willing to let it drop. Tho it would be interesting if he were willing to offer any opinions/insight into the situation.

My suggestion would be something like, “I saw that you earned your Bachelor’s at University XYZ in Iran–I hope that anyone you still know over there is safe.”

1.) Doesn’t assume he’s still Iranian instead of American.
2.) Doesn’t assume that he still has connections there.

I think there’s two questions:

  1. Is it stalker-ish/impolite to bring up his being from Iran? You say you only found out about it from his on-line C.V, and that’s close to the line (but probably OK).

  2. Is it polite to treat him as a representative of the people of Iran and ask him to pass on your sympathies to the people there even though you don’t know his involvement with the country at all? Well, put that way, clearly not. I think that’s the most important thing to keep in mind: he’s a human being who may or may not have particular insight or concern into events in a far-off country, but he’s certainly not a spokesman to or symbol of the entire mass of people who live in that country.

What I think would be appropriate is, only if you’re in a chatting situation, to say something like “I was looking at your C.V. and noticed you got your degree in Iran. What do you think about what’s going on now there?”

That way, you’re avoiding the stalker issue (by being clear about how you know), and not putting him in the situation of representing the country, but rather keeping it a conversation between two people (which is all it should be). You’re also politely and properly asking about them, rather than making the conversation all about your feelings.

Now, if for instance he says he has family or friends in danger, it would certainly be appropriate to express your sympathy for his situation, and for that of the people he knows. If he expresses hope for a peaceful resolution, it’s also appropriate to express your shared hope.
But if he says he doesn’t know anything about current events there; he’s doesn’t know anybody there and hasn’t been back in 35 years, then you’ll be glad you didn’t start treating him as a symbol of the country.

[On preview: what Shot said]

I wouldn’t bring up the CV thing. Iranian names are generally quite distinctive from Arabic names (if you know what to look for), so he’ll probably just assumed you guessed that way.

Weird word of warning: some Iranian emigrants differentiate themselves from revolution supporters/Islamists by calling themselves “Persian” instead of Iranian, and even get quite offended if you call them Iranians. I have no idea how widespread this is among Iranian expatriates, only that a couple of the Iranians (oops, Persians!) I know do this.

Normally I find it’s totally ok to confront people with questions or kind words when it comes to matters that MAY, or MAY NOT, (which is part of the “answer” if I were asking a question), effect them on a more personal level due to ethnicity or culture. In my opinion, everyone’s ignorant on some level, so why not inquire about things to gain more knowledge or perspectives?

During black history month, there was a display in the break-room where I work. It showed pictures of prominent black people and little blurbs about them, mixed in with pictures and blurbs of people who work for the company. I found it weird to have people who do what I do next to people who’ve actually accomplished something much more worthwhile. Having George Washington Carver name next to Justin who works at the service desk is just odd. So when I see something that doesn’t make sense to me, I assume it’s just me until I ask around. I like finding council, that’s why I like these message boards. I asked people if it was me, or was the display totally stupid, including one of my black bosses. I didn’t assume his answer would be different. There was, however, no reason to think he may not have something to add, or that if he were to see it the same way I saw it, it would be more inpactful to my overall questioning of it, (not just by being black, but being my superior). He seemed to totally understand. Neither of us seemed to find it “offensive”… just kind of idiotic.

This is more sensitive though. I wouldn’t say anything if your REAL goal is just kind of letting him know that YOU know where he’s from, (not assuming that’s the case, I just think that some people out there that would bring it up for that reason). I would do it more out of curiousity and feelings of sympathy for people involved in that mess.

To me, there’s a difference between asking an African-American coworker “What do you think of this display, ostensibly to recognize the contributions of Black people in America, that has been put up by the company we both work for” and offering sympathy to a man who may be Iranian or may still know people in Iran.

I’d compare it to automatically congratulating Black strangers on Obama’s election–yes, a lot of people were excited even if they didn’t agree with his politics, just because it’s an amazing milestone of progress, but that doesn’t mean that any given African-American person was going to be happy Obama got elected, just because they’re both Black.

Right, I just mean that I will never be able to see the world through the eyes of someone who’s taller than me. Or… heavier than I am.

I wouldn’t assume they are all one-in-the-same, but they have information that I don’t have access to.

You are right that the situations are extremely different. I just think the best way of learning is asking people questions, and be aware of who you’re asking. I meant it shouldn’t be discouraged in a broader sense, I guess. Nor should offering sympathy

Don’t say anything.

As you said, he hasn’t mentioned that he’s from Iran or said anything about his personal life. That’s a clue. He hasn’t opened the subject of his background, so you shouldn’t either. It’s best to take your social cues from, you know, the people who are in charge of your grades and stuff.

He may have an Iranian university on his C.V., but you really don’t know what he is and considers himself to be. And as RNATB said, many Iranians/Persians are kind of touchy about the whole thing. Especially Persian Jews.

If he does bring up his background in class, then by all means express your concerns. Until then, don’t.

You know, I think may have changed my mind… If he didn’t say it openly it may be something best left alone. The intent is nice, but you can’t assume he wants to talk about it with you.

If you decide to ask him about it, I think this is a perfectly reasonable way to handle it. Maybe he won’t feel like talking about it but I don’t think he would take offense.

i would just say that i see what is going on on the news and hope that anyone he is close to is okay and safe.

i would do the same if i knew someone was from an area where a natural disaster occured. i’ve had coworkers from thailand (tsumani) caribean islands (hurricanes) etc.

when something turns up on the news you do wonder about the people you know are from there or have kith or kin from there.

At the risk of making enemies and offending the original poster:

Do you KNOW your professor? Do you two chat? Are you friends? Do you have an “open dialog”? Something about you “discovering” is nationality from a “readily available CV” (is it posted in the lecture hall with the words “I’m originally from Iran” underlined?) suggest otherwise. I would advise you to save your condolences/well-wishing.

There are a number of  conflicts going on all over the world with deaths in the thousands and tens of thousands and yet, you don't seem to be doing background checks on your other professors/faculty/classmates and preparing carefully worded sympathy statements for them.

You are singling your professor out because of his (original) nationality. It doesn’t matter that you’re singling him out for sympathy, it’s the basis of your sympathy:his nationality and not say…friendship or genuine concern, which is the problem.

Rather than appreciating your “concern” (although he could indeed), I think your well-meaning comments are more likely to worry your professor about what you might think or say or do if Iran were to suddenly enter into a conflict with the United States. Would you then seek him out and ask for an explanation?

I have to thank Shot From Guns for his comments, because they are so pithy here. As a dark-skinned American, I’m constantly subject to pats on the back, thumbs up, and all manner of illogical congratulation on Obama’s election. Does it put a grin on my face and a spring in my step? NO. These are the same people who will be shooting me dirty looks the next time some dark-skinned criminal at large is posted up on television.

You see, it works both ways. Extrapolation from the individual to the group, assuming the individual is intimately related to, privy to, or somehow in control of the actions of a group to which he may or may not be related are all different flavours of the same erroneous reasoning that lead to and perpetuate stereotypes and discrimination, and it doesn’t matter whether your mindset is sympathy, praise, hatred or whatever.

So just keep it to yourself. Sorry, but I believe deep down this is more about you and your worries and concerns than about genuine concern for your professor.

In case none of that sunk in, I’ll give an example from my life. I met a man a few weeks ago who’s arms were severed just above the elbow in an accident when he was young. Did I immediately offer my deepest condolences and perhaps some pocket change? No, I decided to reserve my possibly unwarranted sympathy until I knew more about him than what was “readily available”.

It turns out he is a very successful calligrapher, as well as an athlete who had set records in the special Olympics, and owns three more houses than I do (I own zero houses). So it turns out that he had absolutely no need for my sympathy and rather I, being fully armed and yet not nearly as successful, might be instead deserving of his.

You see, no matter how well meaning I might have possibly been, if I had simply seen his lack of arms and expressed my “genuine condolences”, this gentleman could only possibly see it as condescending and insincere, because my feelings would be based solely on what I could see, and not genuine concern or understanding for his situation. My feelings would be more about myself and how I feel about differently-abled people than about his specific situation.

I hope I didn’t come off that way. I know I prompted Shot From Guns saying that. My assumption is: I only know how I feel about things and, like EVERYONE in this world I have an inherent bias, (not just being white, but being male, being 29 years old, everything I simply am). That’s why I like to include all opinions. Yes, it was a trivial example for this thread. It’s just something that happened this year, and some people in my break-room at the time thought it was weird I would openly ask about the display with my, (gasp!), African American boss being there. That’s where I started to think that the people questioning if it was ok for me to bring it up at that time were more close minded.

However I try to keep an open mind, so if I did or said anything wrong, I’m sorry. As for the OP, I’m still actively thinking about the situation, and the more I think about it, the more convinced I am that it’s not a good idea. I don’t think there’s any wrong with getting a certain perspective on something, but not at the cost of what could potentially make someone uncomfortable. Which he may not be, but it’s certainly possible.

My god, what is it with the huge posts, people generally respond well to thoughtfulness. Whats the worst that can happen? “Professor, I understand you are Iranian, you should know I wish you and your country all the best. Well actually I don’t have any family there, but thanks for your concern”
:rolleyes

How hard is it?

MyFootsZZZ, in my post I was referring to statsman1982 (the thread starter), and not you. Also, please use ellipses in your quote, as the current quote is a little misleading. Thanks.

He’s not assuming anything about his professor, he knows for a fact he is of Iranian extraction. A general expression of sympathy is unlikely to offend anybody other than the flagrantly oversensitive, particularly if the OP prefaced his comment by saying something like “I don’t know if you still have family or friends over there, but…”

And who knows, it might lead to an interesting discussion. In my opinion, there’s a lot of misplaced concern about nothing in this thread.