See subject. Here are the top 100 in line. See if your name is there!
The list looks thoroughly European. Sorry, no King Ralphs here!
I would have been in line except I married a Roman Catholic.
Heh. I was born one. Beat that.
Norway, Romania and the old Yugoslavia. That surprised me. No indications of Canadians, Kiwis or Americans.
Well, if “America” includes Brazil, then the children of Haakon Lorentzen, who are 75, 76 and 77 in line are in America. (Haakon himself is out of the line because he married a Roman Catholic.)
More interestingly, Tane Mahuta Lewis, who was born last year and who is 26th in line, has a Maori father. If he ever becomes King Tane Mahuta, I’d expect him to spend a lot of time in his New Zealand realm.
I hope one day we see the reign of Queen Flora Ogilvy or Queen Tallulah Lascelles.
BTW, Queen Tallulah Lascelles is my drag name.
Remember that there were a lot of marriages among the royal families of Europe, so they’re all interrelated.
Oooh! I call Queen Tallulah Lascelles as my dr- . . .
Damn it! :mad:
Not on those lists or anywhere close, but my girlfriends’ SIL is 17th in line to inherit a very nice, and still intact, castle in Scotland, though the dozen people directly in front of her are her older siblings, mother, and aunts and uncles.
The effect is greatly amplified by the fact that the British throne allows matrilineal descent. A British royal princess marries into somebody else’s royal family, and her kids wind up in the succession for the British throne. If matrilineal descent weren’t allowed, they wouldn’t appear. There’s a tradition of these sorts of royal marriages since they were once a tool of diplomacy. So we wind up with the royal houses of Norway, Yugoslavia and Romania in the current line. Harald V of Norway, for instance, is Edward VII’s great grandson, through his daughter who married a Danish prince who became king of Norway when the Norwegian throne was restored.
With a list that long, it isn’t too hard. Here’s a list of the Duchy of Saxe-Coburg and Gothe descendents. You will notice a bunch of names that appear on the succession list appearing here as born in the US:
For instance, “Richard Darrel Berger, b.Fremont, Ohio 3 Jul 1962” is undoubtedly the guy on the succession list at 300. I just looked at random for a name with no titles, and poked around on “Calma Cook”. There may be somebody higher in the list. Calma Cook’s maiden name appears to be “Calma Barbara Schnirring”. She was born in Chile, and was apparently married first to somebody named Berger in Fremont, Ohio, then to somebody named Cook in North Carolina.
Wouldn’t it be more surprising if a European woman born in the 17th century (Sophia of Hanover) with around 6,000 known living descendants didn’t have any in the United States?
Not only that but the Brits haven’t update their succession law in over 300 years; most monarchies do every few generations or limit the degrees of kinship of dynasts. The UK doesn’t and has a result as the longest line of succession on the planet; probally in history.
Quite so; and the main reason is because the monarchy is shared by 15 other countries, all of which must assent to the exact same succession law or risk setting up a new royal line. It’s essentially seeking agreement of almost 30 Houses of Parliament.
But we are doing it now. The Succession to the Crown Bill2012–13 removes male preference from the rules of primogeniture (so an older girl goes before her younger brother) and allows those in line to marry a Catholic (though not BE a Catholic). As soon as that goes through they will have to redo that list of the first 100!
Apparently they have got it.
Well, yes, they’ve finally gathered up the political will to do it! Although curiously there are certain irregularities coming up:
My understanding is that it is not retroactive and will begin with the Duck and Duchess of Cambridge’s first child.
And they changed Duke to Duck, too? 