Have you, at any time during your life when you were not mentally impaired due to fatigue, drugs, psychosis, etc., experienced something that you believe cannot be explained by our current understanding of the universe?
What did you experience? Why do you believe that the event was ‘supernatural’ in origin??
Thanks.
Yes, I have. I believe that I was the recipient of a telepathic message. I laid it all out in a thread on the subject several years ago and got shouted down, (not rudely) but shouted down none the less.
Can I replicate the experience? No with a very large ‘N’. I was there, I know what I experienced. Anybody wants to say I’m fulla’ shit about it, I’m cool with that.
I’m not sure what you mean by “supernatural”. I believe the event was paranormal because, well, telepathy is by definition paranormal.
I remeber just as clearly as waking up this morning:
My science teacher had told us in class that if we get up around 4 in the morning and look out in the night sky we can see the “Lining of the planets”
I even remember being pissed that morning because my mom neglected to wake me up at 4 like I had asked her to.
Anyway, I get up out of bed and go outside for a look; I’ll be damned if I didn’t see jupiter, saturn and some other blue planet like they were five feet in front of my face!!
Seriously, I could see the rings of Saturn plane as day!!
To make this experience even more bizare: Two years later in fith grade, my science teacher starts talking about how in a couple of days the lining of the planets was going to happen and how it hasn’t happened in a couple of THOUSAND years!!
What really freaks me out about this is I KNOW this is impossible, yet the memory is just as vivid as the memories I have of whatching my son be born.
Yup, several times. Even now I predict that, before too long, several people will start posting in here trying to explain everything presented, just as happened to John Carter.
I’ve seen a ghost & moved a bottle without touching it.
Nope.
Nope. And even if I had experienced something unexplained by science I would assume that science merely hasn’t explained it yet.
…but every now and then my wife will read my mind, down to trivial details, and I’ll do the same to her. Now, I don’t put much stock in the “supernatural” aspect of that crap, but it makes me think I found the right person to spend my time with.
(the explanation is that the “thoughts” are so obvious for the given circumstances* that there would be no other sensable thought process, but damn, its pretty eerie sometimes)
I dreamed of my father who died when I was 15, he asked some mudane stuff about how my mother and grandparents were doing. While we were talking we were building a brick retaining wall at my mother’s house in a very specific spot. My mother’s house (where I grew up) is on the river, my father loved the water… boats… the ocean… fishing and everything about it. When we finished talking and the wall was done he walked down to the river and I went up to my room then I woke up. I told my mother about the dream and she cried because my dad had always wanted to build a retaining wall there but had never gotten around to it, in brick. I had no idea about that before the dream… my father had never done any masonry improvements on the house before. I’m also a lucid dreamer and have been since late childhood, I’m very aware of my dreams and at no point in that dream did I question it’s reality.
Preach it.
Sure.
I think and reason. I experience consciousness. I think about moving my arm, and sure enough – it happens.
Science does a really crappy job of explaining these things currently. Cognitive scientists might disagree on a few points, but I think I’m safe in saying that as a whole, most of cognition cannot presently be explained by science.
However, I don’t believe it will remain unexplained forever, and because it doesn’t violate any physical laws, I don’t thing this counts as supernatural.
I didn’t pick this example at random: like SHAKES, I have solid memories that I know to be false, and I have many others that are, shall we say, suspect. I’ve seen folks induce false memories in ordinary people with amazing ease. I believe that perception and memory can be convicingly fooled, and that doesn’t require the supernatural, either. Further I have extensive experience with people who are a) absolutely certain of something, and still mistaken, or b) outright lying.
What I don’t have is any convicing evidence of a “supernatural.” You equate “cannot be explained by science” with “supernatural” in the OP – I don’t think these are synonyms.
Unless you mean “can never be explained by science”, which may be what you meant. In that case, it’s a fair question, but I don’t think there’s any way to know what science will or will not be able to explain in the future.
I was at 8500 feet MSL over South Eastern Oklahoma in a Piper Comanche indicating about 165 MPH heading for Tulsa when a small pintail duck came along on the left side at the same altitude and about 50 feet away and slowly pulled ahead of me. It was in sight for several minutes.
I had a passenger with me and he saw it also. We don’t talkabout it much anymore, was in about1971. I get tired of the ridicule.
Many pilots I know of have seen things over the years that they just don’t bother talking about.
Gremlins “P” on the pillar of sicence all the time.
Become friends with long distance blue water sailors.
Lots of stuff out there to make a person wonder.
You just won’t ever see it sitting behind a computer desk. Unless you were a radar operator on the DEW line in the early days… Bawahahaha
Alternatively, you can just replace my post with any of several others posted an hour or so earlier, stating the same thing more succinctly…
…which I entirely missed.
I suppose science can’t explain that.
Bah.
I say that because I have, on several occasions, experienced things that cannot be explained by conventional science. I shared some of these on this board, and got shouted down. Feh. Get back to me when you can explain everything in the universe.
Existence. Science can explain how the universe came into being but not why the universe exists.
Yes. Women.
Come on, I had to.
Two things…I’ve had psychic dreams before of people who I’d later meet.
Have also run into ghosts in the woods behind my house.
The second one is I had ear surgery to reconstruct my ear canal and eardrum. It improved my hearing, not only in the ear that had the surgery, but ALSO in the ear that DIDN"T have the surgery. I saw the Grand High Poobah of the pediatric ENT world, and even HE was at a loss as to what happened!
You mean, other than having been woken up by my mother several times? When I was several thousand miles away?
And no, she didn’t pick up the phone (she believes that it should always be the child who calls the parents): I woke up knowing I had to call home, did call home and yes, for once the conversation was more weighty than her many aches or the last boring conversation she’d had with her friend Adriana or with Grandma (Mom can spend three hours retelling to me the latest two hour Adriana monologue; she’s been known to do it twice in two days even though the second time I do tell her “you already told me yesterday”).
Evidently the death of my paternal grandmother wasn’t viewed by Mom as important, that’s one time I didn’t get the message.
I have suspected it on two occasions.
Twelve years or so ago, I was an hour late getting to school in the morning. I walked into the front doors. There was nobody visible in the main lobby of the school, which was as it should be, since everyone was supposed to be in class.
I was walking across this lobby area when I suddenly realized to myself, “Something terrible has happened. Someone has died.”
Later that morning, in between classes, I found out that indeed a classmate of mine had been murdered the night before. Everyone else knew about it because it had been announced that morning before I arrived. But I had no way of knowing about it at the time I recieved this “impression.”
The second occasion is as follows. I was driving home from out of town. About three hours into the six hour trip, I suddenly thought to myself, “When I get home, I’m going to discover that my wife is pregnant.” It was just this odd, matter-of-fact feeling that this was going to be part of my day that day.
We had discussed having a baby recently, and planned on having one soon. But we hadn’t enacted that plan yet.
Sure enough, when I got home, though my wife wasn’t home, it turned out that she had called from a friend’s house earlier that day to leave a message for me telling me the good news. It was weird.
I do not believe in psychic phenomena. But these were a couple of episodes which made me wonder.
-Kris
I was reading a book called the Plaque Dogs about the horrors of animal experiments and petting my dog from time to time. Then I had a very vivid dream that my bicycle had been stolen for similar purposes. I clearly remember storming through the hall of the lab with a baseball bat past stretchers of disassebled bikes till I found mine, I was too late, it was already in pieces. Of course, it was no surprise to me that in the morning my bike was gone. Since I slept on the opposite side of the house from where I parked, and the kids were so noisy that I often slept with earplugs, I don’t buy that heard the thief and sublimated it into the dream, still, I don’t have an explanation
Yeah, I have. So has my son. However, it is not something I’ll really talk about. I figure people laugh at me enough as it is - why give 'em more ammo.