The police that responded to the shooting were incompetent and obviously repressed homosexuals themselves. They don’t know what to make of the shooting scene at first but then they find a planted bottle of mineral water and conclude that the repressed homosexual suicide pact depicted in the note has to be real based on the evidence at hand. The copy of Stud Puppy magazine was questionable but the mineral water confirms the conclusion for everyone just like JD predicted.
I remember really liking Heathers when it came out. I got a Jack Nicholson vibe from Christian Slater. Ferris never crossed my mind.
Another great movie your daughter might like is Ginger Snaps. (I know you didn’t ask, but its a great young girls coming of age dark comedy and there’s not a whole lot of them out there)
I remember loving it when I saw it in the 90s, and then I rewatched it a couple month ago and, I have to agree, it just didn’t age so well. It just seemed, I dunno, really ham-fisted to me, like it was trying to be too clever for its own good. I guess my tastes have changed, as I remember really loving it the first two times I saw it.
MAYBE that was A joke. The joke I explained to my daughter is that Officers Milner and McCord were named after the actors who played Officers Malloy and Reed in Adam-12.
I never caught that one. Like I said, the script has multiple layers of brilliance in it just like a Shakespearean play. I have seen it well over 100 times and caught something new each time. It isn’t your run of the mill 80’s teen movie and was purposely engineered to be the opposite of one. The movie itself may seem a little ham-fisted at times when viewed today but the text and sub-text of the script is still absolutely brilliant and complicated. Unlike other dated movies, I think it still stand up quite well and is one of the most quotable movies in history.
People like the Princess Bride for the same reason but I would argue that Heathers is superior in quotability (if that is even a word) but it isn’t as acknowledged because the subject matter is so socially unacceptable today. If you don’t think so, you probably had a brain tumor for breakfast and I don’t know what your damage is.
I mean “You” in the general sense and not directed at the OP. We have become way too sensitive outside of the Heather’s world where social stratification is brutal, retribution is swift and nobody truly gives a flying fuck.
Despite me calling it hamfisted, I agree that Heathers is greatly quotable, and I’d argue one of the defining movies of the 80s/Generation X. I need to rewatch Pump Up the Volume, now, and see if it lives up to my memories of it, or whether it’s aged, like Heathers has.
That’s what I’m thinking too. I never noticed that. Too me it was ‘I give so little of a shit about anything at all that I can’t even be bothered to speak clearly or at a volume just above what’s required for you to hear it’ (hence the vocal fry).
Wrong! Because nobody in *Heathers *speaks in a cool accent (“Nicholson” doesn’t count).
Great movie though. Saw it when it when it first came out; rewatched it just a couple of months ago. Loved it just as much and probably appreciated it more.
I don’t see any indication that the policemen were repressed homosexuals. They were smoking dope in the car though. I don’t know why there were so many films about high school as a separate society (or as a parody of adult society) in the 1980’s. Mean Girls was, I suppose, a very late entry in that genre. I suppose you could take teen dystopias like Hunger Games as being a variant on the genre.
Call me when the shuttle lands. It is obvious to me at least although I admit that it isn’t supported by anything explicit in the script but it is the most logical interpretation for the scene that I can think of. My GAYDAR was going off for full nuclear strike for those two.
Hmm. I didn’t see them as repressed but merely pointing out just how savvy J.D. is in the movie in terms of manipulating crime scenes. Them recognizing the mineral water isn’t a sign of homosexuality, because J.D. didn’t know that gay cops would be investigating the murder so he chose a signal that would be obvious to straight cops.
Heathers and Pump up the Volume came out when I was about 20, so high school was still fresh in my mind. All those sickly sweet movies that were supposed to speak to teens, like The Breakfast Club made me roll my eyes, but Heathers and Pump up the Volume made me think “Yes, yes, someone finally gets it!”
Although, FWIW, I went to a high school where the “popular” kids were unknown to me. Who the jocks and cheerleaders were, I couldn’t tell you, so I’m not sure by what standard they were popular. I ad my own social circle, and we were pretty insular. It had to do with the size of the school-- about 500 kids in my graduating class.
Junior high, on the other hand, was totally stratified, and much more like* Heathers*, or Mean Girls; albeit, in my experience, the most popular person was genuinely nice-- that’s why she was popular. It was her entourage who was a group of awful, catfighting, bullying bitches, who had clawed their way to the inner circle, and were fighting to stay there. And then there was a tertiary group-- don’t get me started.
But the teen suicide thing in Heathers, the scene where the teacher makes all the students process, and Veronica starts laughing, and a stoner tells Veronica her dead friend must have been deep after all-- those were just perfect.
I’d like to thank Kimballkid for the recommendation. Watched it yesterday and it was a hoot. A bit aggressively early nineties, but high school me would have absolutely identified with it. You know, back when Stegosaurus steak was all the rage.
It’s weird though, how while the sentiments totally resonate with horny angry angsty teenage me; the soundtrack on the other hand is full of stuff I associate with a much later time of my life. Leonard Cohen, the Pixies, Soundgarden… shut up, movie, that’s not socially awkward poseur idiot high schooler music, that’s existentially depressed idiot poseur college kid music ! It’s about a much classier and *deeper *pose !
> Call me when the shuttle lands. It is obvious to me at least although I admit that it
> isn’t supported by anything explicit in the script but it is the most logical
> interpretation for the scene that I can think of. My GAYDAR was going off for full
> nuclear strike for those two.
Do you have any argument other than saying, “Well, it was intuitively obvious to me, and if it wasn’t intuitively obvious to you then you’re an idiot.”
