Hillary’s negatives were *baked *in, until the Comey memo. But that wasnt something made it.
However, during 2026 the kremlin & co actually helped bernie, he hasnt gotten much negative propaganda, just some very reasonable flak for some of his ideas.
I wonder how much of Bernie getting treated with kid gloves by the media is that his supporters online are so vociferous. You’re going to get swarmed in your comments as a journalist if you dare mention Hillary Clinton getting pneumonia was more of a story than a near octogenarian having a heart attack. You’re going to get swarmed if you dare bring up one of Bernie’s advisers, Nina Turner, was pushing the Clinton pneumonia story as a cover-up.
They can’t make their mind up between crying about a media blackout or crying about being criticised by the media. It’s a little Trumpian whereby if it’s not totally fawning about their candidate then it’s not right.
I believe if Bernie’s online support was more about embracing and uniting rather than excluding and dividing then he would be the nominee. It’s those people that turn others off from Bernie.
It also doesn’t help when his most popular surrogate AOC was talking about the democratic party being too big a tent. That kind of messaging from militant supporters of a leader over in Britain caused Labour’s socialist agenda (which as individual items polled well) suffer its biggest electoral defeat in 90 years.
You may be right, there. Hmm.
I admit that all the attacks on Hillary from BernieBros- rather than plaudits for bernie- did piss me off.
Here is a good Guardian article making the case for Biden’s vulnerability against Trump. I had tended to not take the electoral implications of the Hunter Biden “scandal” too seriously, because it’s obvious bullshit, but the way this author puts it makes me pause.
Low-information voters may have been turned off by Bernie supporters (or Russian agents posing as such) being rude on the Internet. It’s kind of insulting to imply that professional journalists would censor themselves for fear of getting “swarmed in the comments”.
That’s by a die hard bernie supporter. Just another cheap attack on Biden and another reason not to support Sanders.
and here’s his attack on Warren:
And the hunter Biden thing is just GOP lies and smokescreen, so shame on him for bringing it up. It’s like, a bernie bro parroting GOP & Kremlin propaganda. Hmm, where have we heard that before?
Weren’t you just talking about how the GOP would swiftboat Bernie by faking a CPUSA membership card or something? Are you ashamed of yourself for bringing that up? At least the Hunter Biden thing is real GOP bullshit, not hypothetical future GOP bullshit.
Nm.
I agree that Biden is very weak vs. Trump. Anyone who thinks otherwise might be doing drugs with Hunter . Biden is an empty suit. 44 years in DC and basically he did nothing major there.
Nope, I am not, that is the sort of thing I expect. By no means am I saying ol’ Bernie is/was a Commie, just that they will spread that lie about him.
Political writers and TV “experts” always write and say a lot about the Vice Presidential pick, who it should be, how it can compensate for weaknesses or build on strengths, and what effect it will have on the race. But is there any evidence that the right person in the VP slot actually does anything for any presidential campaign? In my lifetime there’s been one VP choice that destroyed the campaign (Sarah Palin). I can’t think of any that really boosted the campaign.
I daresay the following three are good examples:
Joe Biden, for Barack Obama. Helped secure him the blue collar industrial midwestern vote, the union guys who may have been nervous voting for a black guy named “Barack Hussein Obama.”
Dick Cheney, for GWB. Served to calm the nerves of people who may have thought GWB was an inexperienced rube with no federal experience.
Mike Pence, for Donald Trump. Brought the evangelical vote out for Trump with gusto. Any right-wing religious folks who had doubts about Donald were soothed by the Bible-thumping guy from Indiana who tried to outlaw the homosexuals.
I think if Biden is the nominee they will attack Hunter Biden’s drug problem which he has admitted to. Among many other GOP attacks on Biden. I am sure they have loads of stuff ready to attack Biden.
I am of the opinion that Biden has the best chance of any Democratic nominee of beating Trump. Mostly because I think Pennsylvania turns solidly for Biden, and that may have some knock on effects in Ohio and other upper Midwest states. Now, if Biden selects someone like Klobuchar as his VP (which seems like it may be likely), I can see him picking up Wisconsin and Michigan again.
So in popular vote, he may win slim (and not do as well in places that Hillary Clinton rolled or made competitive - like forget about turning Georgia blue), but he can reinstitute the ‘blue wall’.
(FWIW, I’m a Warren supporter… but my faith in that candidacy is fading fast)
LBJ helped hold the south for JFK. That was the primary reason for his selection to be on the ticket despite disapproval from RFK and others in the Kennedy camp. That and having LBJ under JFK kept him under control whereas there was concern a Senate Majority leader LBJ would be confrontational. Obviously an assassin’s bullet put LBJ from a ceremonial vice president isolated from decision making to one of the most powerful presidents of the century.
Biden/Klobuchar would be awesome.
The hot takes from the boomers on this board never cease to amaze me. Biden/Klobuchar is the exact same kind of losing ticket as Clinton/Kaine was, but with the genders reversed.
That’s not what “hot take” means but whatever.
Except Biden is doing best vs trump. Poll after poll after poll.
I dont get all the anti-biden propaganda here. Are people being influenced by the kremlin/GOP or Bernie Bros that much? They cant think for themselves?
Dont get me wrong, it’s perfectly Ok to prefer Warren or sanders or Pete over Biden. Sure. But these constant crazy attacks on him are coming from the fact he is the current front runner and is scaring the krap out of the kremlin, not to mention trump.