Hell's Kitchen 6/11: Ramsay picks on Eddie

I am rapidly losing any respect I might consider having for Chef Ramsey. WTF is up with his harping on Eddie’s size? I thought this was about being a chef, making quality food, leadership, and standing up under pressure, NOT height.

I know I should wait until the episode is over, but this is getting ridiculous. How juvenile can you be?

Shouldn’t that be 6/11?

Shouldn’t it also be Hell’s Kitchen?

Boy, am I a mess tonight. Help, someone? Could you report this and request a change for me?

Thanks. :smack:

:smack: Ha! I didn’t even notice that.

I’ve only seen a Season 1 recap, but Ramsay picked on a rotund contestant (Dirty Bowl Jimmy? I think) in that series over his weight. I don’t think Ramsay is evil, he just hits them in the gut to let them know they are shit. If Eddie makes say the final 4, Ramsay will give him props, he did the large guy (Jimmy?) in Season 1. After all the shit he gave him, he told him he had earned his respect by making the grade. Not a page from “The PC Chef Rulebook”, but the guy didn’t seem to hold any ill will after it was done.

Seriously, what was Chef Ramsey’s problem? I can’t understand how the other guy didn’t get eliminated instead of Eddie since the other guy seemed far more of a goof-off. And to add insult to injury, did Chef Ramsey actually tell Eddie to “F**** off” when he was leaving? What did Eddie ever do to him? He seemed relatively innocuous nice guy and his only problem seemed to be not being aggressive enough.

I fully expected Chef Ramsey to pick on Eddie due to his size but I really didn’t think his abuse would go further than jokes like “the tuna’s bigger than Eddie!” He seemed to genuinely dislike the poor guy.

And how in the world the big snuffling crying baby man is still on there is beyond me. It’s almost as if he’s been placed there for sheer drama value and is not allowed to be voted off until his character is completely played out.

I think Ramsay takes the approach of trying to treat Eddie like everyone else - busting balls, etc., and I imagine the producers were all too happy to include those zingers. I thought Ramsay liked Eddie - he didn’t seem to have contempt for him and said some nice things about him, but the bottom line was he couldn’t cook.

I thought that Ramsay was going to fire Rock for not including jackass Aaron on his shit list. What the fuck? I would have happily encouraged him to leave. I have no idea why the other guys wanted to close ranks and convince him to stay. Maybe the crying is exaggerated in the editing?

It’s all about the DRAAAAAAMA. This is, after all, [strike]Faux[/strike] Fox :rolleyes:

If you’ve seen Ramsay on “Kitchen Nightmares”, you know he’s not the mean-spirited hardass he plays on HK. But he does demand excellence and perfection, as do a lot of chefs. He wouldn’t be the easiest person to work for, but you’d certainly learn a lot from him.

I’m not crazy about the way he tends to pick on the “weaker links”, so to speak. It’s part of the drama, which, in turn, casts a wider net for an audience.

About Aaron: If Ramsay were truly a hardass, he would’ve given Aaron much more “abuse” than he gave Eddie. Remember that pep-talk he gave Aaron right before the Dover sole diasaster? If anything, that proves that Ramsay does have a soft spot.

Strategy. If you can eliminate a stronger player quickly, the less chance s/he’ll beat you out in a later show. Like, is ANYONE afraid they might be outperformed by Aaron?
Also, IIRC, in the two previous seasons it was weeks and weeks – at least four episodes – before a team manage to complete all the entrees in their service. And this time the women did it in the second episode, and THEN did the same for the men’s side?

Either they’re flat out amazing, or Chef Ramsay was using them to rub the men’s noses in it.

Look, the guy’s an asshole- he wouldn’t have the show if he was a good guy- and knowing that him being as asshole sells the show, he’s even more of an asshole when the cameras on him. Would anyone watch if he was like Rachel Ray, where everything tastes great?

I thought Ramsay looked kind of surprised that Rock picked Eddie and Josh. I agree with Hippy Hollow about Ramsay’s attitude toward Eddie. It felt like he was trying to motivate the guy up until he messed the risottos.

Why the hell didn’t Rock pick whiney Aaron? Jeez.

(Did anybody report the thread title to a mod?)

Ramsay was a dick to Eddie with the f*** off at the end but I thought he treated him pretty much like everyone else during the service.

At this stage in the game no one has really had time to prove themselves and if you have a bad night and mess up this early in the game you can be sent home over one mistake. Eddie may have been a nice guy but as people have said before nice guys don’t seem to do well running kitchens and he really hadn’t done anything to stand out.

Aaron practically begged to be sent home, he was sick. It is not normal for someone to be dizzy and zoning out like that and it may not all be stress. I think Ramsay was being a little nicer to Aaron just because he was afraid the guy might have a heart attack.

Rock may have picked Josh for “strategy” but Josh was pretty good on the challenge and showed he has some abilities so I would have been surprised if Ramsay sent him home. I keep waiting for another episode where Ramsay rejects one of the nominees and picks someone else.
Is anyone else as annoyed as I am when the previews show something happening that doesn’t happen in the episode? Aaron falling down, Ramsay yelling “don’t die on me!”, the sirens. How many times are they going to show those in previews before we actually get to see what happens?

The other annoying thing is recapping everything after the commercial break. I was just watching it 5 minutes ago, I can usually remember what was happening before the break. They’d free up several minutes of show if they’d stop that … then again they’d probably just add more commercials.

I don’t think Ramsay fired Eddie for being small but because he got lost and couldn’t run his station. I think of the choices he was given, Eddie was the one he had to send home but it was pretty obvious he wanted to get rid of Aaron (and he doesn’t much like Vinnie either). I think the “fuck off” to Eddie may have been spoken more out of pique about not getting to fire either of the two guys he really wanted out of there than true contempt for Eddie.

Melissa has stood out for a couple of weeks in a row now but if there’s anything Ive learned from reality shows it’s that you should never put any money on the fastest horse out of the gate. Things can turn on a dime. I still like her, though. I think she’s even hotter than the blonde, even if she doesn’t prance around in the cheesecake underwear (not that I would object if she did).

Ramsay can fire anyone he wants. I remember an episode last season where he rejected at least one of the nominees and called someone else out. I don’t remember if that was the person he let go. But he at least made his thoughts be known on who really deserved to be up for elimination.

What I can’t understand is how Aaron got on the show in the first place. He can’t seem to cook, he faints and cries under stress, he walks out and takes a nap when he gets tired.

Shouldn’t everyone who gets on the show have an actual, you know, chance? Why include ringers like Aaron?

Yeah, but this is such a transparent attempt to take out the competition, I was amazed that Ramsay let it stand. It’s only because he is such an aesthete that he could find a flaw in one of the stronger chefs and gloss over Aaron weeniness.

If you pulled that shit with Donald Trump (RIP The Apprentice) he would steeltoe your ass back to Kentucky, just for not nominating the worst chef.

Aaron’s “attacks” were downright bizarre. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone zone out quite that deeply before and I’ve suffered from some pretty severe panic attacks myself. When Ramsey said, “He’s not there.” he truly looked like he’d checked out of reality for a few moments. Weird. Maybe he’s on something?

In the tradition of HK’s overdramatized drama ( remember the “You almost killed someone!” raw chicken incident?), I’d venture a guess that Aaron falling down isn’t as serious as it looks, that the ambulance is called for someone cutting themselves or slipping and falling and the “Don’t die on me!” is probably Ramsey yelling at a malfunctioning stove or something.

Aaron has serious neurophysiological issues, if you want my WAG. He seemed to think nothing of his own condition when he said something about “getting cloudy” and passing out for a while. This is something he does regularly.

Was Ramsey correct in saying that, regardless of his ability to clean a sole, not one of Josh’s entrees went out?

As far as Eddie is concerned, wasn’t Ramsey’s complaint about Eddie’s signature dish last week the fact that it was too peppery? Unless it was someone else who got that comment. I would think that if he really knew his stuff, Eddie would do everything humanly possible not to let something with too much pepper go through after that, but I believe that between last week’s and this week’s services, he did it twice. Either he’s putting in too much pepper in defiance of the head chef’s desires, in which case he does not have enough respect for the kitchen authority structure to run a restaurant, or he simply can’t tell when enough is enough with the pepper, in which case he STILL doesn’t belong at the head of a kitchen.

I think Ramsey not calling out Aaron was his way of saying fuck you to Rock: you think he’s not the worst? Fine, do another service with him. Lotsa luck.

Unless we can actually picture ourselves saying, “Man, I can’t believe Aaron won! He shoulda got eliminated in the first couple of weeks!” then it really doesn’t matter when he goes home. He will have not one iota of an effect on the outcome either way.