Help me identify my garage spider

I work a lot of evenings, and currently drive to work in my car. Being summer here at present, I leave well before dark, and return in the wee small hours. Every night as I’m putting the car back into the garage (la-de-da car hole), I have to negotiate the works of one spider, whom I will call Rufus. Rufus could be a girl spider for all I know, but living over a garage door is, I figure, a blokey kind of lifestyle. To see the handsome devil up closeish, click here, here, here, and here. He’s not quite as big as he look in the photos, maybe an inch and three quarters clear of his legs, at best.

I’m not a great admirer of creepy crawlies, but I figure if they’re outside the house, minding their own business, we can probably learn to get along. With Rufus, I’ve had to make some accommodations so that we can both continue to do our own thing. During the daytime, he curls up under the eaves, dead centre above and if front of the garage roller door. His camo is pretty sound, you wouldn’t spot him unless you knew what you were looking for. After dark, he gets busy and spins a more or less triangular web, about two feet to a side, with the bottom of the eave as the base. It ends up being vertical, half a yard in front of the roller door. He props in the middle to lower reaches, waiting for dinner. The way he does it, you can drive the car underneath without hitting the web itself. The problem is the several supporting lines he runs down to the ground, to anchor the whole show in place. You can’t drive around those, not where he puts them, smack in the middle of the car hole.

Rather than drive right through his handy work, possibly dislodging him onto the car (not where I want him living, thankyew), I’m gently removing his lower scaffolding with a broom before driving underneath. When I do this, he either remains in place and starts winding in any loose threads, or unfortunately starts lowering himself into the car zone, to make repairs. If the latter, I sabotage a bit more web up the top somewhere, until he gets clear of where I want to drive. One time he just wasn’t getting the idea, and he ended up on the ground. He must have managed to survive OK down there, because he was back up the next night. I’ve only seen him catch anything once, a beetle type thing, which I think he wrapped up for later. Overall, he’s a tidy bastard, and completely packs up his web before daybreak. Daytime car activity is therefore spider free.

I dunno what kind of spider he is. Examination of online resources hasn’t given me a match. If any Arachnologist Dopers would like to offer opinions as to Rufus’s ancestry, I’d be most grateful. He’s a resident of coastal NSW, a little south of Sydney. Being an Australian spider, it’d be a great disappointment if he was any less than extremely venomous and ill tempered. It’s a wonder he hasn’t ripped my arms off and levelled several city blocks in retribution for my web breaking. If the other spiders find out that he’s not an eight legged Chuck Norris, they might tease him.

I didn’t think Rufus was quite GQ material, so into MPSIMS he goes.

It’s an “Orb spider” named for the type of webs they weave. There are a zillion varieties, so it might be hard to pin him down.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=orb%20spider&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Maybe a Garden Orb Spider? http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm1.static.flickr.com/52/131398638_51db94e3f7.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/25056484%40N00/131398638&usg=__bILv5_KpevL-22IAl6mDXwji3U0=&h=500&w=311&sz=131&hl=en&start=34&um=1&tbnid=W0gykbN27eI2TM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=81&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dorb%2Bspider%26start%3D21%26ndsp%3D21%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN
and here :
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s240/kcwlf29/65896879pocI6GIHIMG_9953.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.patriotpestcontrol.com/Spiders.html&usg=___YA2rcZH1dKYBszrOb5R87x9u8o=&h=560&w=560&sz=296&hl=en&start=60&tbnid=TANCj3BP3Smi6M:&tbnh=133&tbnw=133&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgarden%2Borb%2Bspider%26start%3D42%26ndsp%3D21%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN
(scroll down to the middle of the page)

Those are much, much better pictures than I was expecting.

Unfortunately. :slight_smile:

Garden spider.
Smash it with a rock.

Why?

It looks to me to be an orb weaver. Also–I seem to have some recollection that it is primarily the females who do the big webs. Ever read “Charlotte’s Web”?

Your photos are beautiful, but…

SMASH IT WITH A ROCK (as suggested previously). That’s a big mutherfuckin’ spider.

I don’t like spiders at all, they creep me out. But that’s no reason to demand they all be squished.

Unless it lands on you, then you can do anything you like to it.

If the spider has enough sense to present a web that I can see (and avoid, GAK) it’s got free reign to eat all the bugs it wants. In the desert, black widows are a freaking menace. They have the webs of death that are spread everywhere. You touch one and it’s stuck to you, usually along with the spider. Little horrors those things are. They don’t have a lot of poison but it makes you feel like you’re having those nasty fever dreams. Damn, I hate those things. They don’t kill anything good either, that I’ve ever seen.

“That’s Some Post…” :smiley:

Don’t kill it just for the sake of killing it. This spider, although venemous to insects, can’t hurt you. Live and let live. If its in the way of your daily life then sweep the web aside with a broom or something.

No one is advocating killing it just for the sake of killing it. We’re advocating killing it because it’s a fucking spider.

Rufus is a very handsome spider! Much nicer looking than the mailbox spider I had when I lived in California, who each night would build a new web between the lid of my mailbox and the house. I could actually open the mailbox without disturbing the web. But he was a very small spider, not as large and distinguished as Rufus.

I showed Rufus’s picture to Papa Tiger, who lived all over the Pacific for over 20 years, and he started reminiscing about the large banana spider (about as big as his hand) in Guam that built a web each night just outside his window; the bugs would then fly towards the lighted window and the banana spider would benefit from the feast. :slight_smile:

Definitely an orb weaver and, as some have noted, far more likely to be a female than a male. It’s essentially harmless to you. A bite causes some mild pain, and possibly some localized swelling, but that’s about it.

When i lived in Sydney, we used to have dozens of orb weavers in our back yards, including the somewhat larger Golden Orb Weavers. We tried not to bother them, because they do eat a bunch of insects. The only problem was that we had a clothes line in the back yard where we would hang our clothes to dry after doing laundry, and you had to be careful that you didn’t bring a spider or two inside with your clothes. One day, i brought my clothes in and put the basket of clothing on my bed before going out. I came back a few hours later to find that an orb weaver had strung up a decent sized web between the basket, the wall, and my pillow.

Orb weavers also forced me to change my exercise schedule. Where i lived, in Petersham, there are plenty of nice leafy streets, with trees planted along the sidewalks. The problem was that orb weavers would string up their webs using these trees, and the first person to use the sidewalks in the morning inevitably got a face full of web. After a couple of morning runs that were punctuated by me flailing around trying to remove the web from my face and the spider from my hair, i gave up and decided to run in the afternoons.

Oh, well, at least it’s not a stupid reason. :rolleyes:

Good for you! Like all of us, she is just trying to make a living.
:slight_smile:

Thanks, all.

So Rufus is likely an Orb Weaver of some kind, and probably a lady spider? She can still be called Rufus, I reckon. :wink:

Why thank you! I had to crop a bit to get that close an image, I haven’t got a macro lens to get any closer. I went all Strobist on Rufus, two Nikon SBs on stands (with a snoot and a grid spot) to cross light her on the three quarters. With all the light coming from the strobes, I didn’t have to worry about freezing motion and camera shake, the extremely short duration of the strobes freezes any motion quite nicely. Depth of field was a bit iffy, the spider’s body seems to be sharper than the legs. I take my hat off to the regular bug photogs, it’s not as easy as it looks.