I sent both my response to his initial spam at the time I sent it, and I sent his resposne to my parents with the letter I copied and pasted above added on. Now it’s clear, isn’t it?
Bummer. So much for the “honest and open discussion of issues, instead of divisive and cruel and dishonest attacks and counterattacks,” huh? Or were YOU supposed to be the bigger person here (which it actually sounds like you have been all along)?
I’m supposed to let him crap on me, over and over, accept it quietly when he “disowns” me, and be a “better person” and also accept it when he finally decides to pretend nothing happened. That he’s going to stop giving me the cold shoulder and speak dissapprovingly about me behind my back to my family (As I’ve seen him do with siblngs on more than one occaision.) and pretend nothing happened at all.
Not apologizing or acknowledging that he might have caused emotional pain with his actions at all, taking no repsonsibility for the results of his “disowning” on my self esteem. My parents cannot understand this right now, and I don’t know if I will try to explain it to them or not. It will break Mom’s heart in a way, but she won’t hold it against me.
I see now that he’s also been an abuser in my life, and so I say “Good Riddance”. Maybe now I can finally heal in those spots that have stayed raw over the years.
I hope so, it’s caused a good deal of negative behavior when dealing with people. I always wonder if they are going to pull similar stunts with me, and tense up “just in case”, and also behave in a prickly manner, making certain I drive home my points thoroughly. This is because I had to do this in order to make him be quiet and possibly acknowledge that I might have a point somehow, however “flawed” or “crude” it might be.
It’s not quite “his fault”, but he did impact my personality development, he was a catalyst. I made the choices to react as I did, and grow in those ways, but I might well not have if not for the pressure he supplied periodacally during my growth process.
Some things can’t be unsaid, some actions can’t be undone, and this time, he can’t undo that single word. He says “bye”, so be it. He’s not my brother any longer, he merely shares the same genetics. It took decades to finally get to this point, to finally say “No more, I’m done. I can’t do that again, and I won’t.” but it’s finally happened. I can’t keep on with this cycle, and I flat out will not. It’s not good for me.
I disowned an abusive brother a few years back.
It’s hard. I’ll never have him completly out of my head but I don’t need any new stuff from him ever.
In the op the link complains about Doonsbury and The Daily Koz? I’ve never heard of that. Isn’t that just someone’s blog?
What about the book TREASON. Don’t that count as unreasonable dicisive name calling?
I like how that website says that Kos "has been known to remove items if they prove to be too “hot.”
The article they claim was there is indeed not there. I scanned all April 12 articles. Now, is the statement thet they remove “hot” articles just bullshit, so they can make up any phony Daily Kos article and just claim it was removed? Or did Kos actually have that Powell article up? Did anybody see it?
I read Daily Kos, and do not remember seeing it. But I may have missed it, or simply forgotten it.
I truly do not understand. The OP is offended that hurtful and racist comments from a liberal website were exposed by another hurtful website? The website with the linking was combating the original offensiveness of the KOS website.
The irony here is that the liberals are the ones who claim to be the Civil Rights people. The rule is proven true: Everything that a liberal tries to accomplish, will actually create the very opposite to occur.
What if the KOS website was a conservative website?
Those goddamn liberals. Always trying to create peace by starting wars. Always trying to liberate the Iraqis by killing them. I mean, how fucking stupid must those goddamn liberals be? :rolleyes:
Fucking idiot.
Zabali, I feel for you. I have the brother who claims to love us all but never has any contact. The whole relationship is frustrating, depressing, and stressful. However, I wouldn’t read his response of “bye” as him disowning you. For what it’s worth, it sounded like he just didn’t care to discuss it with you any further. Rude and disrespectful as that may be, it didn’t sound like he is washing his hands of you. He’s obviously immature and when confronted with logic (or being called on his bad manners) he chooses flight over fight.
Sorry for the family shit. We all have it, but it’s so damn painful to deal with sometimes.
It doesn’t sound like you’re getting anything positive from your relationship with your older brother, zabali, so not having anything to do with him is probably a good idea. What I’m not too sure about is dragging your parents into it. Isn’t this between you and your brother?
Now there’s a hole with no bottom. :rolleyes:
I can only imagine that Zabali_Clawbane’s brother must be practicing that new-fangled “compassionate conservatism” thing they keep talking about on Fox News.
The way I see it , if things were like that, and Zabali_Clawbane was actually a conservative instead of a liberal, and her liberal brother was spammer her, you would find pretty much the same responses from probably the same posters. Oh sure some liberal would not be able to see beyond his own political bias, and post in your place, but for the most part this would have gone down just the same way.
This really doesn’t have to do with politics, it has to do with a bully of an older brother. That transcends politics usually.
FWIW, I found the Powell article via Google’s search site function.
I fully understand that I am in the minority here, so I am expecting further flaming. Also, I apologize for the non-sequitor statements and the digressions. So let me shear down my original posting above. I will remove the rhetoric and useless sentences. I start again:
The OP is offended that hurtful and racist comments from a liberal website were exposed by another hurtful website? The website with the linking was combating the original offensiveness of the KOS website. You cannot truly say that you weren’t offended by those comments, and weren’t embarrassed that they came from a liberal website?
The irony here is that the liberals are the ones who claim to be the Civil Rights people.
What if the KOS website was a conservative website, and stated those same comments?
There. That is much better. Much more like what I wanted to say originally, although I’m not expecting to make many friends.
Chicago Faucet I’m offended that someone who’s closely related to me, and who knows my feelings when it comes to politics would show such an obvious disregard for my feelings. That showed that he doesn’t care how I feel, that he’s going to continue “pressing his case” even though I’ve said “Let’s agree to disagree, and just not talk about politics anymore”.
Attempt to use something different to illustrate what I mean: It’s almost as if they, knowing I love cats, but am not fond of dogs, sent out a letter about how cats do more harm to small dogs than all the dogs in the world combined do to cats,(counting things like tigers and lions of course) therefore cats are the ones in the wrong. It’s the fact that he sent it to me at all, knowing how I feel. Can’t you see how he was backhanding me, with the text of the letter, and then the link?
Kalhoun He’s almost 50 years old, he has had years to hone this routine down to it’s bare bones. His “bye” was just that. He’s going to ignore me, give me a cold shoulder if we attend the same family function, and speak disaprovingly about me to anyone who will listen, calling into question my very ability to think straight at all.
He’ll dredge up my abusive marriage, and any other mistake I made while very young, to illustrate his point, and paint me as a hysterical emotional female, who’s emotions cloud her ability to think clearly, devoid of logic and good decision making skills. He has even dared to paint such a picture of our mother, who is also bi-polar, and unfortunately all of my older brothers believe it completely, they look at her, and try to respect her, but it’s not quite, because they don’t think she’s capable. My little brother didn’t quite buy it all, because he saw how capable she was growing up.
I “brought my parents into it” as you say, because even though it IS between my brother and I, he won’t leave it that way. I know he calls my parents often, I cannot. I KNOW he speaks badly of anyone he’s currently “shunning”, and can very persuavively present his “case” to them, such that they look with saddened eyes on the sibling, not wanting to believe they could say or do such things, but finding themselves doing so because he’s so good at twisting what happened.
Fortunately, they’ve learned to ask the other sibling for their side now, because once, they called a sibling to chide them, and got told gruffly their side of things. Needless to say, there is still a bit of a rift between those siblings because of this. Still, it’s that they’d be “poisoned” at all that gets to me, so I acted to prevent it. My parents know I’m not asking them to take sides, I told them I’m merely presenting what I actually said, so that it couldn’t get twisted.
He’d do it. He’s done it in front of my face with our other siblings. I learned to go to them, and ask them what was up, and get their side of things. Mom and dad do this too, but it’s hard to shake off his poisonously slick words completely. THAT is why I got my exact words out to them first, so there would be no way he could decieve them. I’d rather say, “Yes, I said some crude things, here are the exact things I said” than have him present his side first. 
Call it a “voluntary confession” if you will.
Ah, another thing. **Chicago Faucet ** even though the OP, which I wrote, touches on politics, and it’s obvious you are at an opposite pole from me, that does not give you license to discuss politics in this thread. This thread is touching on an abusive older brother, who has constantly tried to ram his ideas (not all politics either) down my throat, would not relent, and who has crapped on me emotionally for about 2 decades.
If you want to discuss politics, and have an answer to your question, kindly don’t hijack this thread, take your question to GD. To paraphrase, either contribute to the actual topic of this thread, or lurk in this thread, either way, desist in your hijack attempt. If you want your question answered, be polite, and take it where it can be without de-railing the thread.
I’ll ask, please don’t answer his question in this thread, take it to another thread. That’s not the topic of my OP. Thank you.
His question:
which is not on topic with the OP it’s a tangent. Some tangents won’t hijack the topic, but this one will, and so I’m asking those who do wish to debate it, to take such debate elsewhere. 
I can’t believe you guys, focusing on serious issues like family problems! Didn’t you notice Chicago Faucet desperately trying to score cheap political points? Sheesh! As if the tortured relations of a twisted family situation should take priority over another shot in the endless screeching of liberals versus conservatives!
Shame on you all!*
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featherlou My apologies, I meant to be addressig you when I said:
etc. Sorry, I’ll have to pay more attention when writing my replies.
You’re better off not having any contact with your brother if he aggravates you so much. I just don’t quite understand why you replied to his spam so forcefully. You could have just simply blocked him from sending email to you. It just takes a couple seconds - a lot quicker than it took you to write that heavy-handed response. I just think you created unnecessary drama by responding to him at all.
Because, at the time I wrote the response, I was still clinging to the hope that I could get through to him, and get him to respect me. I now realize that such hope was an illusion.
Since when does an OP get to dictate what can be discussed in a Pit thread?