Help Relgious Biblical Question

Does anyone have any idea what “URIM THUMMIN” mention in Exodus 28:30 as part of the high priest clothing might be?

it seems to be a reference to Hebrew / Jewish Lots (dice) or a means of determining “The Will of God” based on later usage e.g Numbers 27:21 1-Samuel 28:6 etc.

Any help would be apperciated

Thank You

That verse is footnoted in my Bible as such:

Urin and Thummin: both the Hebrew words and the exact nature of the objects so designated are uncertain. They were apparently lots of some kind which were drawn or cast by the priest to ascertain God’s decision in doubtful matters. Hence, the burse in which they were kept was called “the breastplate of decision.”

For the record, I use the New American Bible.

The Urrim V’Tummim was another name for the breastplate of the high priest. The plate had a set of precious stones with the names of the tribes on it. When the people wanted an answer from G-d, the stones would “light up” in an certain order and if the high priest was worthy of “divine inspiration” he would be able to decipher the message. This is the standard jewish traditional understanding of the Urrim V’Tummim. There is no reference anywhere to lots of any kind. It also explains why it is always the high priest doing the ceremony.

Great, now I’m having a mental image of a High Priest playing a game of “Simon” with God ;j

Thanks … I was unclear on how it was intended to work that is way I equated it with casting Lots (which are mention elsewhere e.g. Numbers 26:55 But the land shall be divided by lots…

Now unortunately I agree with Chronos I have this picture of the high priest with rows of blinking lights on his chest. I wonder if it had sound as well. :smiley:

Side note Chronos Like the Sig line …:cool:

I thought there was a way to edit your own post.

Next time I will use the Preview feature …

I was gonna say it was a prophetic reference to actress Uma Thurman, but I’m not gonna say that.

didn’t joe smith have two rocks which he called the Uman and the Thuman (only remember that they sounded a lot like ‘Uma Thurman’) which he covered his eyes with to read Gabriel’s rock?

hazy memories and hung over.



TQMshirt has it pretty much down, except that the “Urim and Thummim” were something that was placed inside a pocket of the breastplate, not an alternate name for the breastplate itself. Jewish commentaries are uncertain as to what they were, but the main speculation is that it referred to scripts of the holy name of G-d written in a special, mystical way.

And also, the letters would light up, but not in order. It was up to the High Priest to decipher the message properly.