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And yup! That pretty much sums it up!
I pretty much brought that up for discussion.
(I didn’t think this thread was active enough) 
Exactly. Thank you.
I’m not saying that staff should kowtow to people who are being complete assholes, but the effort should still be made to provide them with good service.
You don’t have to go out of your way to satisfy their every whim, but you are paid to provide them with good service.
While I agree that this isn’t always realistical, it should be the rule, not just the exception.
So what if there is only on decent restaurant close to you and it is one day before you get paid, you have nothing in the fridge and there are no local shops open?
Say the cheapest thing on the menu is a tenner and you only have a tenner on you?
You can bet that I would go in have that meal and leave without tipping rather than starve myself for a waitress who may have already earned more in tips that night than I earn in a week.
What If I give a homless person a quid for a cup of coffee (as if I would) ? Does that mean I have to give the tramp three extra quid so that when he goes and buys a cup of tea or whatever he will be able to leave a tip.
Maybe all the homeless have good intention and when they ask for the price of a cup of coffee they reall mean to spend it on coffee, but when we dont give them enough to tip they just think " Aww to hell with the embarassment of not tipping, I am just gonna buy a tin of Carslberg Super with this. "
Why dont all waitresses just go get jobs in call centres till the restaurant industry get their act together?
If you don’t have enough for a tip and there is only one restaurant in town and you have nothing in the fridge and no stores are open and pigs flew outta my ass, you’d go to the restaurant and order the food to go!
While I would certainly tip a buck or two even on to go orders, at least you are not wasting that waiter’s table where he/she could be serving a tipping customer!
:rolleyes:
What if the moon were made of cheese and you could just slice off a hunk and eat it? :rolleyes:
It the waitress/waiter is earning more in tips that night than you earn in a week, it’s because they’re busting their ass. Tips are not a freebie, especially on this side of the pond. Wait staff earn them.
Part one: Your most reasonable and civilized option would be to apologize to the person who served you, explaining the situation, and then to be sure to come back after you get paid and make up the difference. I don’t know what your weekly pay is, but if the waitress has made more in tips that night than you earn in a week, then maybe you can’t afford to eat out and had best plan ahead so that you always have a loaf of bread and some peanut butter in the house.
Part two: Yeah, right. Why don’t YOU just get your act together and get a job that pays better? Or learn to budget the pittance that you apparently currently earn? Why should the waitress starve because you can’t budget your money to last the week? Or think in the morning, “I’d better get some macaroni & cheese to cook before I go home tonight, while the stores are still open?”
We’re going to have to agree to disagree with this. In the case of complete assholes (the lick-my-boots you lowly service slob type, condescending and abusive), I feel they don’t deserve any service. I’d like to think that if they find their money is not good anywhere they went, they might change their tune. Wishful thinking, I know.
No, think about it. Small town, one restaurant and one cheapo kebab place that is a well known rats nest, other restaurants close-ish by are to far to walk and you dont have a car.
In fact what if there are a thousand places in town and the cheapest meal is costing a tenner? My argument would still apply.
Why should I order over-priced food to go just for the luxury of walking home with it, de-bagging it and eating it cold, that dish that cost a tenner is obviously priced that way to include the fact that you are sitting in a warm place and to include the wage they pay to the staff for bringing it over to you.
Owners should tip the customers for bringing their service by serving good food at reasonable prices and paying the staff what they deserve.
If you’ve read the thread, then you would realize that dish that cost a tenner is obviously priced that way to include the fact that you are sitting in a warm place and to include the wage they pay to the staff for bringing it over to you is wrong in the US. It only includes the part of the wage not including gratuity, as is legally established here. That’s why restaurants don’t have to pay minimum wage. By not tipping for service provided, assuming even average service, you are taking away pay from a waitperson. That’s how it is in the US. I can’t speak for how it works in Scotland.
smam, I would continue arguing this point with you, but you are clearly out of your cotton-lovin’ mind.
Read this entire thread, please.
Dude chill, It was kind of a hypothetical situation. Why should the amount of money someone earns determine wether they are allowed to eat in a certain place, I am sure there is an -ist in there somewhere.
Yeah maybe I would say sorry for not tipping but I certainly would not take time out to go there and tip the next night, because I would have went there for a service, and recieved that service for the asking price if the waiter/ess is really that keen perhaps they can bustle their asses over to my address if it means that much to them, basically I dont owe it to them, the tip that might have been theirs is not their money. And if this results in poor service the next time then they would actually be stealing from me by making me pay for product I have not asked for i.e a cold hamburger.
Cmon a meal in a restaurant the day before you get paid, that is budgeting my friend. You dont know what I spend my money on.
So I should be able to eat somewhere even if I can’t afford it? That’s not really what you meant to say, is it?
erm no , and in fact that is what I didn’t say, MLS said that if the waitress gets paid more than I do then maybe I cant afford to eat out. But I can afford to eat out, what MLS said sounded to me like if you earn less than a waitress but can still afford to eat out then you should still not eat out. Fuck that.
I am just presenting a situation where someone in America could surely have a meal and not feel so guilty about not tipping because of the position they are in that night.
But will you have it? No you will not.
God forbid you forget to tip one night, you suckers wont get a wink for weeks.
oh yeah and LolaCocaCola nice job of starting this thread off, ha ha " This thread is gonna work goddammit, even if I have to post every single reply myself. "
I am surprised you didn’t actually quote yourself third post in. guffaw
smam, look at it this way. The only reason the price of the cheapest thing on the menu is so cheap in the first place is because they assume people are going to tip the wait staff. If everyone stopped tipping (because they couldn’t afford it, even) then the price of that item would no longer be $10, it would be $11 or $12.
I can’t afford to shop at Bloomingdale’s, yet I don’t accuse them of being anything “ist” because I can’t shop there. It it not your right to eat at someone’s restaurant, you can only eat there if you can afford to pay for the meal and the service you are provided, which, in the U.S., includes paying your waitress yourself. If you cannot afford to pay for the service, you shouldn’t get it. Order it to go.
Then why the hell is it called a tip?
Why dont the owners just fess up to being cunts then up the price so they can pay their staff? Then no-one would have cause to pit. Actually there would be I can see the thread title now.
‘Americans no longer have to tip the staff now get paid well, but I still tip and twats dont - discuss’
It is fucked up and no mistake.
If everyone in America stopped tipping then would the owners not have to pay the minimum wage, eventually?
It could be tough for a while but I am sure I can stand it if the staff can.
What are you rambling on about, my good man?
If you are suggesting that I am responding to posts in my own thread, you would be correct!
And at least I make sense.
Why won’t you just admit you’re a cheap fuck and be done with it?
Man, according to this thread, I could be a puppy kicking, kitten stomping, baby candy stealing monster and still not be viewed as vilely as people who don’t tip.