Oh wow. He really is an evil shit. I can’t believe someone would publically admit they’re anti-abortion and ambivalent about supporting their very own child once out of the womb. What a bastard!
Only one more page to go, wring!
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You mean the woman can’t drop the baby off at a Safe Haven, or put it up for adoption, or get an abortion? Or is it that her life is less sweet if she doesn’t pursue any of these perfectly legal options? The guy who takes off can get his wages garnished or tossed in jail, the woman who does any of the above is off scott free.
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She’s not “off scott free,” she will have taken responsibility. She inst’t “taking off,” she’s dealing with it.
No man has to become a parent unless he wants to.
I really would like to echo Yosemite’s question about what the motive would be for a woman to somehow get a man to impregnate her through some sort of subterfuge, then to run away and not tell him she’s pregnant, then to drop the baby off at a safe haven after it’s born. Hah hah, He had a kid and never knew it. She sure got him, poor bastard.
Really, people, think about how fucking stupid your hypotheticals are.
Names have been changed and emphasis added to protect the relevance.
Enjoy,
Steven
Who put forth THAT one?
Diogenes-
You never really answered why a man doesn’t deserve to know he has a child nor why we shouldn’t make an attempt to inform him.
That was the whole original point. We were saying that if some of you got what you wanted, men would have no incentive to be responsible—even going so far as to lie about being sterile in order to not have to use birth control (why should he worry? He’s going to be off the hook either way). To which you replied that women could lie about being sterile too, just to collect a check. (To which I replied, “Sure. What a great deal. The happy-go-lucky life of a single mom.”) And then someone else (I’ve forgotten who) said that women could drop their baby off at safe harbor or give it up for adoption (or abort it) if they wanted. So you put these all together, (lie about being sterile and still avoiding responsibility) and it just doesn’t add up on the women’s side. What motivation would she have in lying about being sterile if she doesn’t want the kid? Why risk pregnancy?
A man would have zero incentive to not lie about his fertility, whereas a woman still would, since she’d still be the one facing pregnancy or abortion.
I think that “we” (meaning the government) do make an attempt. I think sugaree has already given you sites about that. Perhaps things could be better, but I don’t think that the government doesn’t give a shit about men’s rights to be informed.
Unless I am mistaken his cites are for when a child goes up for adoption. I don’t think there are laws requiring the father to be informed. I might be mistaken.
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I don’t think there are laws requiring the father to be informed of the birth of his child.
If men don’t have to be informed, why are men who have not been informed been able to sue the adoptive parents and get their kid back?
If there is some law that says that the man doesn’t have to be informed, I trust you can find a cite that indicates that.
I don’t see a contradiction to between the two statements.
I am not saying there is such a law. I am saying that there should be a law that the state should make a reasonable attempt to find the father of the child. If there is no law saying a father must be informed than he doesn’t have to be.
I think I warned about that way back then.
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:: foggy smoke swirling around ::
I see, I see, people calling on the phone, asking questions, paying money to get answers, yes, I see a psychic hotline! :: cut foggy smoke::
Here, I’ve found you a random cite on parental consent to adoption.
It doesn’t look like (at least in the state of California) someone can adopt a guy’s kid out from under him—if the guy is actually around and gives a shit.
Feel free to find some cite that indicates that men don’t have to be informed. I won’t say that such a cite does not exist. If it does, I think it should be changed. I think that guys (who give a shit) should have to give consent before their kids can be adopted.
yosemite-
Ah I see. I am not talking about adoption. I am talking about a case where the mother keeps the child. In this case I think there should be a law that the father has to be informed.
It’s often easy for him to know if he’s a daddy. Simply keep track of the women he screws. If she starts getting a big belly, that’s a tip-off. If he doesn’t give a shit about her and goes on his merry way, it’s really his own damned fault if he’s unaware that she’s in the family way.
No, it’s not a perfect plan, because she can move to the Bahamas right after she discovers she’s pregnant. But most of the time, this time-honored system works quite well.
You sure did.
Tell me, oh wise one, do you see a ninth page in our future? Or will it top out at page eight? 
You certainly bitched about me. Course, nothing on Diogenes and his inane rantings that men can’t possibly be raped by women. Funny, that.
Hey, wring said we’d get eight pages with just catsix’s loony-ass ramblings. Add in treis and Diogenes competing for to see who can have the stupidest hypothetical situation, and the sky’s the limit.