The difference in this specific case is that, as far as we have been told, the woman in question is taking responsibility for the consequences of having sex. She is keeping the baby.
We could argue that in some mythical perfect world people of both genders should have the exact same rights. The fact is, we ain’t there yet and won’t be for some time.
But all of this is academic. The fact is that a new life is on the way and the father has both legal and moral responsibilities to help care for it.
What an inane pile of shit. It only takes a second to shoot somebody. What the fuck does a duration of time have to do with accountability for a decision?
If the father gives a shit, he will claim custody before the kid is born.
BTW, I don’t think there’s any legal requirement that the dropper-offer has to be a woman. It’s just a law designed to prevent people from dropping babies into dumpsters.
The man took that risk once he helped you plant it.
And it’s a poor metaphor anyway.
The best point made in this debate is that we can’t just let a man walk away from his child just because he feels like it. It’s not in his best interest or the interest of the mother or the child.
And ultimately given how much a healthy relationship with his offspring contributes to a man’s wellbeing it’s not good for him either.
Abortion isn’t taking responsibility. Its weasling out of your responsibility by killing your child.
Diogenes you are missing the point. Women can give their child up for adoption without the consent of the father. Men cannot put their child up for adoption without the consent of the Mother. That is inherently unfair.
Along with a lot of other things in life (ahem, especially in my life right now, for example). Adults learn to accept that not everything in life is 100% fair. When the situation is by the law of nature lopsided, you play by those rules instead.
No, it’s taking responsibility and terminating a pregnancy before it results in a child. Screaming “murder” is just childish, and not true and utterly unhelpful.
Only if the father makes no attempt to claim custody. If he wants it he can have it.
I don’t believe this would be true in the unlikely event that a father somehow ended up with possession of a child that no mother was making any claim on.
I agree with those who have said it sucks for men that, once a pregnancy occurs, a woman can decide whether or not to continue with it and become a parent while men can’t. Sorry, but biology just sucks sometimes. What can you do? If I had been born a man, I’d probably be taller and stronger. I can curse about that to mother nature and whatever gods may be, but it won’t do any good.
If there were a way for a man to terminate his parental rights and responsibilities without harming the child, I may be for it. I just can’t think of any way that could happen. Once a child is born he or she has rights, and that includes the right to support from the parents. If a man doesn’t pay child support, the child suffers. I’m not willing to let the child suffer to try and make things more equal for men.
For the moment, I’m willing to cut hauss some slack (for the moment). His ex girlfriend is 24 weeks along, so he’s probably only known about this for maybe 16 weeks or so. I don’t know when his ex decided against adoption, but it may have been recently. It’s very possible there just hasn’t been enough time for everything to sink in and for him to form any feelings about the baby (especially if he and his ex aren’t close any longer). Also, they could both still be in the throes of all the emotions and fighting of a recent breakup. So he may just be going through the initial panic reaction of “oh my god, this sucks, my life is ruined–is there any way out of it?” It remains to be seen whether he’ll adjust to the situation and own up to his responsibilities. So I’m not going to call him a scum bag just yet (though I reserve the right to do so in the future).
No it isn’t. It’s actually being responsible by recognizing that a pregnancy may not be a good thing for you or a potential child right now. It’s certainly far more responsible than having a child when you don’t have the resources to properly provide for it.
Where do you live that a mother can give up a child for adoption without a father’s consent?
